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TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. I remember in 00s there seemed to be mainstream acknowledgement and concern that anorexia and distorted perception of one's body can be socially transmissible, ripping through teen social cliches particularly, and could be spread through the internet by "pro-ana" websites and chat groups. I don't hear much abo…

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Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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No religious flamewar please. This thread was hellish enough already. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32306035 .

I was replying this: > It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. How is this not relevant?

Flamewars are against the site guidelines. Especially generic flamewars, and even more especially generic flamewars on classic flamewar topics.

A generic "religion is superstition" flamewar is the most textbook case in the genre, and also easily avoidable. We don't want that here, so please don't post like that.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it. Note this one: "Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. I remember in 00s there seemed to be mainstream acknowledgement and concern that anorexia and distorted perception of one's body can be socially transmissible, ripping through teen social cliches particularly, and could be spread through the internet by "pro-ana" websites and chat groups. I don't hear much abo…

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That's another way of doing what we just asked you not to do. Not cool.

You can call moderation 'censorship' if you like - people use that word based on how they feel - but turning what was already a flamewar about other social issues into a generic religious flamewar is obviously against the HN guidelines and therefore obviously off topic here. That's the kind of thing we ban accounts for, and trying to start the same thing up again under a different guise is not ok.

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The social transmission is obvious in clusters to youth becoming trans. It’s willful blindness

I've spoken to a mother whose school-aged daughters' circle of friends, five biological girls, all identify somewhere between trans and nonbinary. The teachers encourage and reward it. So do most of the parents. Among these girls it's uncool to accept the body and sex you were born with. I've read stories of similar clusters in other deep-blue cities and school districts. I believe we're seeing a massive Clever Hans…

Small correction: while the 2017 Stranger article did lead to Herzog receiving harassment, death threats, and social ostracization, she did not leave The Stranger as a direct result of the article. She was furloughed in 2020 and then laid off during COVID.

The edit timer on my original comment expired, but I didn't want to leave that error hanging out there.

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> The interesting thing is that despite the condition being composed of a wide gamut of seemingly unrelated behaviour, ~90% of people with ADHD respond extremely well to the same treatment - stimulant medication. This is constantly presented as some sort of ultimate validation of these disorders and every time I read it I'm absolutely baffled. Stimulants used in ADHD medication improve focus and productivity for almo…

There's clearly something weird going on re: ADHD+stimulants though. Most people don't calm down if you give them stimulants.

You'd think I was on 60mg of amphetamine if I wasn't on my 2x 30mg of amphetamine a day. I'm scatterbrained, chatty, impulsive, annoying, angry and a whole lot more without my meds.

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Isn’t the “record yourself” aspect relatively irrelevant? The majority of users don’t record themselves dancing (or even don’t create content on a regular basis).

I'm not so sure. Even if they don't record themselves, they see "everybody else" is doing it. You get the same thing happening in other forms and other social phenomenon but I'd wager the effect is stronger on TikTok.

That’s different to what you said earlier, now it’s not about imitating but observing others that imitate.

As you say, same thing happens in other forms. A viral tiktok dance format seems similar to a viral image board macro or a viral twitter text format. How is tiktok different and why the effect would be stronger on tiktok?

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I think the cause may be wanting a way to opt out of the pressure cooker that modern life is. I'm disabled (I have MS), and the one benefit to it is that I have a 'get out of social expectations free' button I can push if things get too difficult. If I'm not feeling well, it's acceptable for me to cancel plans, call off work, make sub-optimal decisions (putting my health above my earning capacity, etc.). In short, di…

I've seen a lot of people who fail to live up to the perfect idea of themselves fall into thinking they have ADHD as a way of explaining it. I'm not sure what the answer to that is.

I mean, it's pretty common in general for mental disabilities to get diagnosed after failing to live up to another persons expectations as well. It's not totally unreasonable to think "Man, I/They seem to be unable to do something. Maybe I'm/They're disabled?"

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I think you may have misread the comment you replied to. The claim being made, is that in times past, the bar for being diagnosed with something like OCD was much lower than today, causing people to consider mundane things as symptoms.

“The bar also got a lot lower than back then.” It appears GP is saying the bar for being diagnosed with a mental illness is lower today (“got a lot lower”). I am pushing back, at least where OCD is concerned.

Whoops. You're right. I thought you had misread the comment, but instead, I had misread the comment.

I had read "The bar also got a lot lower back then." and missed a critical word. Sorry!

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Try reading up on plural systems before you make such judgements. And don't hang around /r/SystemsCringe; it's a hate sub. Otherkin is not a fad, and it's not confined to Tumblr; it's been around for decades, all over the net and real-life society. There's considerable overlap between otherkin and furry; otherkin is basically furry for fictional species. Anyway, furry/otherkin and plural people read and post here to…

>Try reading up on plural systems before you make such judgements Unfortunately we have. >And don't hang around /r/SystemsCringe; it's a hate sub. Stop. Stop right there. Laughing at the deranged lunacy of this stupid subculture is NOT HATE. Stop diluting the word "hate" to mean "any slight that goes against my narrative or the narratives of those I ally with." There are real hate groups out there spreading their fil…

> There are real hate groups out there spreading their filth and getting people killed.

If you think that fora dedicated to laughing at what you call deranged subcultures are not spreading hate and getting people killed, you haven't been paying attention. One of the greatest contributors to the emulation community is dead because of Kiwi Farms, and they're not the only one.

It's hate. Get it out of your system. Or you may well find yourself quite unwelcome. Remember, furries run the internet.

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