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It's not just related to tiktok, but there definitely was a strong fetisisation of ADHD going on which seemed to peak in 2020-2021 (but still there).
20 years ago, when my step kids were young, people also said ADHD and Autism was a "fad" and "overdiagnosed". People have been talking like this since at least the 90's and always claiming it's a new, recent, thing.
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#572Could it be the case that there is now less social stigma to address and speak about mental health publicly?
Speaking from anecdotal experience (which is, yes, the worst), I struggled in school on mathematic topics, and just about never did my homework. My high school pushed me for a study, which was performed. My parents and I were invited to a meeting to review the results, but they did not allow me to come along, and I was not allowed to view the results of the study, but my school did grant me extended time on tests but was not allowed by my parents to elucidate why. (I did not need the extended time.)
These days, I went to a psychiatrist and had more studies, done, it turns out I have a rather textbook case of ADHD which was not disclosed to me and was left untreated. I also casually think that a small slice of my family, possibly including myself, is on the autism spectrum (on the DSM-5 style definition).
So, while I partially agree with some of the perspectives here, I also firmly believe a non-zero amount of the change is that we're getting better at understanding and speaking about mental health—where definitions and processes from a psychiatric perspective are evolving, and that socially it's no longer something that must be bottled up and kept hidden (as much).
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> But doesn't everyone respond extremely well to stimulants? I wish lmao. I'm on meds and while I can see a difference between non-meds and now I could easily go back to bed after they kick in and sleep the entire day away. Still doing the dosage dance with the doc. Someone who didn't need them would likely be a little hyper if not bouncing off the walls depending on the dosage.
That sounds like maybe an adhd thing? Not trying to diagnose you but from the comment it's not clear whether that's what they're prescribed for. I definitely get a noticeable feeling of calm/steadiness/"settling" as my stimulants kick in, and yes it would be very easy to go back to bed at that point. My understand is that this is not a typical part of the stimulants experience for people without adhd. But by "respond…
Apologies for the misread too
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#574I've done a lot of thinking about this issue, and there's two topics I notice. First, disability has become a status symbol in certain circles. Second, the huge rise in self-diagnosed disability. On the latter point, these kids are acting out these disabilities with such sincerity and 24/7 consistency that they effectively are disabled for all practical purposes, it's just that the diagnosis might be different than t…
I think the cause may be wanting a way to opt out of the pressure cooker that modern life is. I'm disabled (I have MS), and the one benefit to it is that I have a 'get out of social expectations free' button I can push if things get too difficult. If I'm not feeling well, it's acceptable for me to cancel plans, call off work, make sub-optimal decisions (putting my health above my earning capacity, etc.). In short, di…
I'm not sure what the answer to that is.
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> Yes, it won't happen overnight. This requires a culture shift. I meant that it takes 15-20 years for critical thinking to develop. I don't think you can teach a kid critical thinking (at least anything that is useful against internet content). The best mechanism is teach them dogma/fear mongering "don't talk to strangers". > But banning things to coddle children's mind even further will hinder the process I agree w…
There is an insane lack of self awareness in this post.
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> A community that does not control the narrative its members hear, will cease to be a community. A community that controls the narrative its members hear, will very likely turn into a a society full of prejudices imposed dogmas.
I think you’re right. And - ick feeling - wonder if that’s where we are.
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I don't doubt a mental health practitioner told Musk he has Aspergers but we've now moved the bar from medical issues being related to a "significant negative impact" on the patient's life to "...some interpersonal issues..." being sufficient to label someone with a medical condition.
I think you're reading too much into the "significant" part of this the word in this context does not mean "large". And again, it's pretty presumptuous to act like we know the whole story with Musk's Aspergers. I don't acutely pay attention to his personal life, and I don't see any reason to make the assumption that the only symptoms he has are ones that have been visible in the media(like the $420 tweet and the "ped…
The fact of the matter is it is not possible to prove someone is neurotypical or not neurotypical. There is no scientific study that can tell you whether Musk's personal problems are "significant" enough to justify the diagnosis of Aspergers.
I don't know anything about Musk's personal life, but he's clearly suffering a lot less than individual on the autism spectrum who have trouble with basic day to day activities like keeping a job or navigating a normal work related conversation.
Unless neurotypical people are definitionally free from loneliness, depression and social isolation the last sentence of your comment seems like a red herring.
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#578Note for the hacker news comments: you'll see a lot of people not putting sarcasm markers next to what they say and then a whole bunch of replies thinking that person was serious and there's a whole lot of misunderstanding going on in a lot of these comments and that's a problem. Tone indicators are important.
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Formalize it into combat sports, with rules, referees, and medical personnel on staff. Or just competitive sports in general. But don't permit physical bullying. Your experiences elide over cases where there was serious harm done to the victim, physical or otherwise, or led to disproportionate retaliation.
Heh, most of the fights I ever got in were in the context of a competitive sports team. There was always informal refereeing; other people on the team pulling the fight apart when they decided it was over. And there is an unspoken code of conduct; putting somebody in a headlock ended the fight, and you would never try to do something insane like gouging somebody's eyes out. Of course sometimes a small minority of peo…