Perhaps art is the next profession relegated to unemployment because of computerization.
I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo
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#282If you haven't seen it, watch the current season of Westworld.
Assistive technologies like this are awesome!
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>will become as common as "photographers" There were still ~60% as many employed photographers in 2021 than in 2000 with higher real wages (data from BLS - https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm ). For camera operators, the employment is flat, again with rising real wages. >imagine paired programming with natural language interacting with an AI Mostly it will get in the way. AI "programmers" are only good if the…
> Mostly it will get in the way. This is simply not true. I use GitHub Copilot and it's already made me faster and shows me ideas I would not have thought of myself. And that's just Copilot. When you can talk to an interface and say "I want to update the vote count by one when I click this button" I think you'll change your mind. The AI will know the entire codebase inside out, it will know the intention of all the c…
But will the AI know why my babel.config.js doesn't work properly with my webpack config so that my JS Flow annotations are properly stripped in a react native compilation?
I can see the intent side of things, but I just can't see the 'glue' side of things as well.
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I see this happening in all areas. Everything would be prompt-driven. Do you like this? What about this? You simply nod or reject the solutions that you don't want. Pretty soon somebody's expertise and experience is not going to be enough to continue paying them what they used to get before this magic blackbox appeared. One day enterprises will realize they can just outsource that expert who's been reduced to simply…
Doctors are very vulnerable. Most of dermatology is simple pattern recognition. I can easily see AI lawyers beating human lawyers in litigation, too. An AI lawyer will have read every single case and know the outcomes, and can fine tune arguments for specific parameters like which judge etc.
> Most of dermatology is simple pattern recognition.
I have a few qualms with this app:
1. For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.
2. It doesn't actually replace a USB drive. Most people I know e-mail files to themselves or host them somewhere online to be able to perform presentations, but they still carry a USB drive in case there are connectivity problems. This does not solve the connectivity issue.
3. It does not seem very "viral" or income-generating. I know this is premature at this point, but without charging users for the service, is it reasonable to expect to make money off of this?
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#285I’m fascinated by how much this is exactly like working with a human artist who doesn’t really understand the domain that you are wanting to represent with an image. Iterate, iterate, iterate. It seems like the most valuable thing this could do is get some of that early exploration out of the way faster and easier than a human can do it, get to two or three concepts that feel like they’re in the neighborhood, and the…
Ehnnnnnnnnn...
An experienced human designer, right away, is going to ask how you want the logo to be used. That's going to have a major impact on how it's designed.
So yeah, this may be like working with a doodler, but, as the author intimated, this is far from an ideal experience in getting a professionally designed logo. This is more like "Hey, you, drawing nerd, make this thing."
Nevertheless, astonishing technology in its own right.
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Not trying to be a luddite and/or vehemently defend the noble profession of nuanced graphic design, BUT... Those iterations suck. I'm not worried for my colleagues and I. That being said! Many, MANY clients have questionable taste, and I can, indeed, see many who aren't sensitive to visuals to be more than happy with these Dall-E turd octopus logo iterations. Most people don't know and don't care what makes good grap…
I feel like you look at this too much as a creator rather than the customer. The logo may be not optimal for every medium, not have a great palette, not have the feel you would give it... But the author is happy with the result, so who are we to say it's bad/good? Paraphrasing @mipsytipsy "colour harmony doesn't matter if the user isn't happy". (yes, I get the nuance where it's part of the designers job to explain wh…
You're right. A million shitty logos are created every day, and for the vast majority of them, they will serve their purpose. And contrarily, there will always be a marketplace for companies/entities who want a logo that has purpose, novelty and intelligence behind its design. I definitely see a chasm between an AI-catered subclass and human-catered superclass forming.
Weirdly, with the advent of AI, we might start to see exactly what it is that makes human beings special.
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#287When AI reaches the point where we can talk to a system like DALL.E in real time and work with it to solve a problem, it's game over. Art will become a commodity. Human art and ai art will be indistinguishable, "artists" will become as common as "photographers" since the inception of digital photography and social media. Movie and TV scripts will be iterative with a creative director and AI working together. Animatio…
I don't know if it's really game over. I expect it to be like farming. Tractors and other machines took over lots of farming jobs, but still not everyone has the ability to be a farmer.
The key would be knowing the context of a situation. AI took over chess first, because chess always has limited context. Logo design on the other hand, needs understanding of the product, the target market, the feeling of the brand, and so on. So it'll probably be a mix between photography and management.
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Kai's Power Tools.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27288454 Love him or hate him (and I do both), Kai was all about cultivating his adulating cult of personality and dazzling everyone with his totally unique breathtakingly beautiful bespoke UIs! How can you possibly begrudge him and his fans of that simple pleasure? ;) In the modest liner notes of one of the KPT CDROMS, Kai wrote a charming rambling story about how he was once pas…
How interesting! Thanks for posting.
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#289simplified logo of engineer octopus with data four colors
simple logo of software engineer octopus using green yellow blue and orange databases
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#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
>will become as common as "photographers" There were still ~60% as many employed photographers in 2021 than in 2000 with higher real wages (data from BLS - https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm ). For camera operators, the employment is flat, again with rising real wages. >imagine paired programming with natural language interacting with an AI Mostly it will get in the way. AI "programmers" are only good if the…
> Mostly it will get in the way. This is simply not true. I use GitHub Copilot and it's already made me faster and shows me ideas I would not have thought of myself. And that's just Copilot. When you can talk to an interface and say "I want to update the vote count by one when I click this button" I think you'll change your mind. The AI will know the entire codebase inside out, it will know the intention of all the c…
The fact that you can imagine something will happen doesn't mean it will happen.
Who says the AI will "know the intention of all the code, all the data models, know how users use the application intimately"? Are you aware that language models do in fact have token input/output limitations that will not go away? Are you aware that there is such a thing as diminishing returns when it comes to improvements due to increased number of parameters/training set size that are already evident? Are you aware that the training set of codex pretty much includes all available public code, so it will be impossible to scale it by a factor > 3 in the next several years at least?
Your assertions are full of wild assumptions backed by nothing.
As for photography, the fact is there has been no job apocalypse because your "friends and family" are "pumping out photos". And the point of your initial post, even if it was implicit, was "you are going to be unemployed in 5 years". This will have an impact on your dev flow and will be used by managers to try to reduce salary premiums for software engineering but your wild assumptions stated with so much confidence may never happen.
P.S: At this point, I find Intellicode actually slows me down, that's why it's permanently turned off. Current copilot will at most save me 2-3% of my working time each week if I am coding in a language it can actually do something in (it's worse than useless for Scala).