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I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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post #61

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I don't imagine the image quality will stay at this level for long. It'll likely improve dramatically over the coming months/years.

For logos you want specifically a design that will work well in black and white, and you want assets that are vector art. At the point that AIs can produce that it's worth revisiting for logos, but I'd bet that's probably more on a "many years from now" schedule.

These AIs weren’t trained on logos.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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I’m fascinated by how much this is exactly like working with a human artist who doesn’t really understand the domain that you are wanting to represent with an image. Iterate, iterate, iterate. It seems like the most valuable thing this could do is get some of that early exploration out of the way faster and easier than a human can do it, get to two or three concepts that feel like they’re in the neighborhood, and the…

Agreed. At the end of the article I also described a bit how I would see the evolution of such a tool, and it looks like we're thinking very similarly. --- Though I think the real breakthrough will come when Dall-e gets 10-100x cheaper (and faster). I would then envision the following process of working with it (which is really just an optimization on top of what I’ve been doing now): 1. You write a phrase. 2. You ar…

I see this happening in all areas. Everything would be prompt-driven.

Do you like this? What about this? You simply nod or reject the solutions that you don't want.

Pretty soon somebody's expertise and experience is not going to be enough to continue paying them what they used to get before this magic blackbox appeared.

One day enterprises will realize they can just outsource that expert who's been reduced to simply typing prompts and nodding yes or no.

I am worried that the middle class is rapidly disappearing. We will own nothing and be happy seems quite ominous. The question is then what field is safe from advancements in AI?

The only field I can think of is doctors, lawyers, executives, buy-side money managers. Even their jobs will be partially automated but it will be safe as long as they generate revenue.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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post #83

This blog post proves that Dall-E 2 will not make human taste and design ability obsolete. The final image he ended up with is a lot uglier and more complicated than most of the intermediate steps. I think generative art AIs will have a similar effect on design as compilers have on software development, and will not put artists out of a job.

If you can have humans sort the generated images into "good quality" and "bad quality", you can just keep iterating. Our subjective ratings is another score to optimize for.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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I had no idea that could you do the variations or the brush stuff. Maybe I’m just glossing right over it? But that seems to give the tool more utility. I just try a phrase and I either like it or I don’t. The fact that you can integrate on it seems to make it much more useful.

Yes! A really cool way to work with it is to generate a bunch of images, arrange them on a transparent canvas (i.e. in Affinity Designer), and then ask Dalle to fill in the gaps.

For example see here[0], where I've combined a picture of a flying whale, a tardigrade in space, and a bunch of flying turtles.

[0]: https://labs.openai.com/s/quqITCrFI7h0G1HKyfUrmJU0

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. At the end of the article I also described a bit how I would see the evolution of such a tool, and it looks like we're thinking very similarly. --- Though I think the real breakthrough will come when Dall-e gets 10-100x cheaper (and faster). I would then envision the following process of working with it (which is really just an optimization on top of what I’ve been doing now): 1. You write a phrase. 2. You ar…

I see this happening in all areas. Everything would be prompt-driven. Do you like this? What about this? You simply nod or reject the solutions that you don't want. Pretty soon somebody's expertise and experience is not going to be enough to continue paying them what they used to get before this magic blackbox appeared. One day enterprises will realize they can just outsource that expert who's been reduced to simply…

>Pretty soon somebody's expertise and experience is not going to be enough to continue paying them what they used to get before this magic blackbox appeared.

Every art director at an ad agency just shrieked!

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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post #54

image generators are cool, but there's no shortage of them (midjourney & running your own on collab) and dalle2 has nonsensical bans (why does "pepe" go against the content policy?) Open-ai has nonsensical censorship. Dalle might be popular right now, but open-ai won't survive if they keep up their ridiculous attempts at trying to control culture. I've already got something running on collab, new models are coming ou…

I was disappointed to see this on their site. I had a pretty good idea of doing a sort-of online art installation by grabbing crime data near me from local web sources and having images automatically generate of those crimes, but unfortunately many of those crimes seem to be too violent for their filter.

I'll have to find a different option.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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post #21

Lately, there seems to be an avalanche of tools like DALL-E, was there some breakthrough that helped make these thinks more viable to run publicly? And concerning creating a logo with such tools: Is there any consensus on an eventual copyright of such works?

dall e 2 says you can use their images for commercial uses. that's not all there is to this though obviously

You can use it according to their license, but is it copyrightable is the question, and precedent so far seems to say no since a human didnt author it.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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You could try using Midjourney: https://discord.com/invite/midjourney

Never heard of that. So I looked it up and it seems a service completely based on discord? Both for the community and support (I presume) as well as accessing the service itself? There doesn't even seem to be any HTTP API. Weird :)

Yeah, it's a neat idea but it's extremely frustrating to use. A really really basic web frontend would make it so much more usable.

On the upside (for MidJourney), you're seeing a HUGE stream (they are hitting the 1 mil Discord members ceiling) of generated pictures and that kinda grows your appetite and you want to also try more and more prompts..

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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I actually tried doing something similar with dall-e mini for one of my projects but the results were bad. It was especially struggling to draw the octopus' limbs. It's impressive to see how much better dalle 2 is at the same task, even if the results still aren't good enough for professional use.
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