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Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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Employment is a transitory thing. Remember this the next time you spend your life energy fixing something you could get away with letting fail.

As an employee you need to think like a mercenary, ruthless, no loyalty, enrich yourself, get the job done but not at any cost to yourself.

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Would you say the same about working from home generally, which seems to have more staying power (even if we are seeing some return to office)? It seems not-crazy to me that someone would have thought that WFH was going to stick around post-COVID and thus also make people want to keep being able to work out from home.

they’re quite different first and foremost, working out at home has always been available. If you prefer working out at home you were probably already doing it. Second, a lot of people enjoy a social aspect of gyms, or even just find it motivating to be around other people working out even if you don’t talk to them. You only have to spend a little time around fitness oriented folks to know workout at home was never g…

as a bodybuilder for 20 years, i completely agree with you. working out at home has never had the same appeal to me or anyone else i knew who worked out as going to a gym. i got a peloton during covid isolation and it simply wasn't the same. i went to the gym the first day it opened and so did every other regular. i knew peloton wasn't going to continue thriving, however i do have to say they have very quality equipment so they'll probably continue to do okay.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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All of this has already happened. Just look at the stocks of all the pandemic companies. Peleton, Teledoc, Zoom, Docusign and on and on. Pretty much all down 80%+ from their highs.

If anyone had any notion that the markets were efficient or rational in any way regarding the actual underlying value of the companies they purport to represent, I certainly hope that notion didn’t survive the pandemic - I’m not sure what world stocks were pricing in over the last two years, but it didn’t pass even a cursory smell test.

the market is the most efficient place you can put your money, and the companies that underlie the market are the greatest stores of value with the best growth opportunities we know of, and the pandemic didn't change that.

Dying to hear where else you suggest putting investments...?

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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Somehow I feel that all these VC backed firms just add employees for the sake of adding employees. I use Tastyworks - another free online brokerage that it almost at feature parity with Robinhood. They have stocks, options, futures and even some selective crypto. They also make money using PFOF just like Robinhood. However on Linkedin, their employee count is less than 100 (99 to be precise) On the other hand, Robinh…

I used to work at a real time brokerage + national bank based out of the Midwest. The entire engineering+ operations team was 128 people, exactly. Including the CIO and his assistant who ruled the 39th floor with an iron fist, a hold over from the dot com era. They're publicly traded. I think they're down to 90 people but still running a functional company with tens of thousands of broker dealers. I have no idea how you need more than 500 tech people to run an online trading platform.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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And yet, CEOs for decades (the 50s-80s) did just fine at a fraction of wealth disparity compared to today [1]. In fact, in just the last three years; the overall disparity has increased 31% despite corporations failing to properly manage the pandemic or their workforces. 1 - https://www.forbes.com/sites/annefield/2022/05/23/ceo-worker...

> And yet, CEOs for decades (the 50s-80s) did just fine at a fraction of wealth disparity compared to today [1]. And yet, SW professionals did just fine for decades when making anywhere from a quarter to a third of today's FAANG salaries (inflation adjusted).

SWE (and many professional/“white color”) salaries have been stagnant for a decade and a half. In fact, the overall average has been on the decline.

Try again.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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A lot of Robin Hood's growth in particular was driven by people gambling their stimulus money because they didn't need it to make ends meet, and by the Fed juicing the markets with low rates for far too long, and by the ridiculous meme stock phenomenon. It was a perfect storm of stupidity. Personally I'm glad that some sanity is returning to investing, and we are still a long way from getting back to normal.

people gambling their stimulus money because they didn't need it to make ends meet How did you quantify this statement?

One estimate puts it at $170 billion extra flowing into retail investing.[1]

Also, it may be reasonable to use the savings rate as a rough proxy. That rate was higher than it has been for decades when the stimulus was active and has since dropped. [2]

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/21/business/stimulus-check-s...

[2] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PSAVERT

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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Somehow I feel that all these VC backed firms just add employees for the sake of adding employees. I use Tastyworks - another free online brokerage that it almost at feature parity with Robinhood. They have stocks, options, futures and even some selective crypto. They also make money using PFOF just like Robinhood. However on Linkedin, their employee count is less than 100 (99 to be precise) On the other hand, Robinh…

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Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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We honestly aren't treated better, and as you point out, are usually the first out the door. This has been my experience as a marketer over the last 16+ years. So, so many of my compatriots let go in these lean times (and often not backfilled), leaving those left behind to do 2-3X more work and get the ol "you're lucky to have a job!" speech. I've been laid off twice in my career, despite being considered a high-perf…

If it makes you feel any better layoffs are nothing personal, it all comes down to box ticking on a spreadsheet, to make numbers balance.

This is a weird thing to say. Not only is it functionally false, we have plenty of cases where companies made layoffs due to personal reasons and also where companies are making a profit, but also comes across as condescending.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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The truth is that a majority of tech companies don't need 50%+ of their employees. Google could lay off vast swathes tomorrow and be immensely more profitable without any loss in revenue. The 2010s will be remembered as the golden era for tech employment. The second we start getting industry wide layoffs, the insanely high wage inflation we've seen will kick into reverse much faster than you probably believe possible…

> The truth is that a majority of tech companies don't need 50%+ of their employees. Totally agree. The problem is, nobody knows how to tell which ones. On the ground it's obvious. I'm sure everyone here knows who on their team is crucial to their current production stack, and also knows others who would have no impact (or even positive impact!) if they left. One level up - the direct EM - has most of that context to…

No heuristic is perfect, but it's fairly easy to quantify empirically from activity/records. Developers who are productive (actually write and ship large amounts of quality code) tend to be valuable and those that don't, aren't.

That being said there are some intangibles, like morale etc. It's possible there are people that benefit the team while having low personal productivity.

But anyway, no need to approach in that way. There are probably entire branches of google that could be laid off without any material impact to revenues/profitability, thus all layoffs concentrated in single arm.

Crypto divisions could be cut at many companies without affecting their core businesses. Did Square need to rename itself to Block and add all kinds of crypto functions? How many hundreds of developers are working on that.

I don't think X% headcount cuts horizontally across the org are ever a good idea. Cut non-essential functions. And cut in core branches opportunistically based on low performance.

Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff

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Somehow I feel that all these VC backed firms just add employees for the sake of adding employees. I use Tastyworks - another free online brokerage that it almost at feature parity with Robinhood. They have stocks, options, futures and even some selective crypto. They also make money using PFOF just like Robinhood. However on Linkedin, their employee count is less than 100 (99 to be precise) On the other hand, Robinh…

I used to work at a real time brokerage + national bank based out of the Midwest. The entire engineering+ operations team was 128 people, exactly. Including the CIO and his assistant who ruled the 39th floor with an iron fist, a hold over from the dot com era. They're publicly traded. I think they're down to 90 people but still running a functional company with tens of thousands of broker dealers. I have no idea how…

>Including the CIO and his assistant who ruled the 39th floor with an iron fist, a hold over from the dot com era.

Please explain? Is ruling the 39th floor a particularly [financial] in-joke?

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