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I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by cube2222 »

jacquesm wrote: post #239

Very impressive. What amazes me is how closely the images match the prescription given. How long did a typical iteration take? How long did the total process take?

Glad you liked it!

Not sure about "iteration". I mostly did a lot of experimenting.

If you have something like "let's add a helmet to this", then that's basically 5 minutes to a good result.

The whole process took a few hours if I remember correctly, with the main hurdle being to come up with the phrase for sensibly laid-out pictures (the circle background). It went quite quick from then on.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by bsder »

bulbosaur123 wrote: post #87
woah wrote: post #83

This blog post proves that Dall-E 2 will not make human taste and design ability obsolete. The final image he ended up with is a lot uglier and more complicated than most of the intermediate steps. I think generative art AIs will have a similar effect on design as compilers have on software development, and will not put artists out of a job.

Disagree. Just allow one or two more iterations and it will supersede human abilities. Think ahead. Tech progress won't stop.

However, the input might stop.

Right now, the input to DALL-E is all human generated.

What will happen is that DALL-E will generate something "close enough" that gets used and promulgated, so now the input to DALL-E will become increasingly contaminated with output from DALL-E.

We're already starting to see this in search engines where you get clickbait that seems to be GPT-3 generated.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by moffkalast »

deebosong wrote: post #144
woah wrote: post #83

This blog post proves that Dall-E 2 will not make human taste and design ability obsolete. The final image he ended up with is a lot uglier and more complicated than most of the intermediate steps. I think generative art AIs will have a similar effect on design as compilers have on software development, and will not put artists out of a job.

Not trying to be a luddite and/or vehemently defend the noble profession of nuanced graphic design, BUT... Those iterations suck. I'm not worried for my colleagues and I. That being said! Many, MANY clients have questionable taste, and I can, indeed, see many who aren't sensitive to visuals to be more than happy with these Dall-E turd octopus logo iterations. Most people don't know and don't care what makes good grap…

That's some strong copium you got there, can I have some of what you're smoking?

Ultimately the average person (who is likely the target audience anyway) won't notice anything wrong with most of those iterations and given that they're basically free in comparison would make me worried. I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to make it output svgs soon.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

tauntz wrote: post #99
dividuum wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard of that. So I looked it up and it seems a service completely based on discord? Both for the community and support (I presume) as well as accessing the service itself? There doesn't even seem to be any HTTP API. Weird :)

Yeah, it's a neat idea but it's extremely frustrating to use. A really really basic web frontend would make it so much more usable. On the upside (for MidJourney), you're seeing a HUGE stream (they are hitting the 1 mil Discord members ceiling) of generated pictures and that kinda grows your appetite and you want to also try more and more prompts..

I think it is still in sort of a testing/early access phase. Discord only access is essentially a way of funneling everybody who wants to try it into their captured marketing venue without having to have one of those "give us your email" placeholder pages (also has a bonus "social" aspect where you're seeing what many of the other people who are using it are creating). The final product will presumably be more tailored and web-driven.

It's also an interesting way of balancing what I assume are high operational costs on the server-end by pawning off some of the hosting of assets onto Discord.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by jacquesm »

cube2222 wrote: post #241
jacquesm wrote: post #239

Very impressive. What amazes me is how closely the images match the prescription given. How long did a typical iteration take? How long did the total process take?

Glad you liked it! Not sure about "iteration". I mostly did a lot of experimenting. If you have something like "let's add a helmet to this", then that's basically 5 minutes to a good result. The whole process took a few hours if I remember correctly, with the main hurdle being to come up with the phrase for sensibly laid-out pictures (the circle background). It went quite quick from then on.

Even more impressive then because to generate that many sketches by hand or using software without this prescriptive generator would take many days or even weeks.

A couple of years ago there was a list of jobs that were going to be in danger from being automated in 10 years, I don't recall if designer would be on the list but it looks as though that moment has gotten significantly closer.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by notahacker »

hackernewds wrote: post #219
city17 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tech will get better, but ultimately there still has to be a human who decides 'that's the one that looks good', which strongly depends on someone's taste and skill in identifying what a good image looks like. There will probably be less need for designers of 'lower quality' simple images though.

There has to be x - y humans that needs X - Y hours instead of X humans needing X hours. And that is a real risk to the profession

Only if you assume the world demand for raster images is fixed...

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by monkeynotes »

mkaic wrote: post #223
monkeynotes wrote: post #169

When AI reaches the point where we can talk to a system like DALL.E in real time and work with it to solve a problem, it's game over. Art will become a commodity. Human art and ai art will be indistinguishable, "artists" will become as common as "photographers" since the inception of digital photography and social media. Movie and TV scripts will be iterative with a creative director and AI working together. Animatio…

Wholeheartedly agree. What's more, it seems to me like there's a large segment of the art industry that's very much in denial right now about this transition. You see stuff like "the human touch can't be replicated" or "but the algorithm will never [thing xyz] like a human", and then when it does do thing xyz like a human, the goalposts just get moved again. A lot of my wonderful art friends are in this kind of denia…

Eventually art for the people will become art for the individual. Our AI partner (I assume we will all have one) will serve up an entirely curated world. Art will be generated on the spot, just for you. Entertainment, just for you. Imagine having a TV show no one else ever sees because it was synthesized from your likes, experiences, interests, just for you, on demand. This will of course start with AI writing short stories, then books, but there is no limit really.

Already AI is being used for comic book backgrounds. It's just a matter of time before all of this becomes commonplace.

When you look at AI and what it does, it is no different to what humans do. We are trained on a model (experiences and other minds), and we make derivative decisions based on the model. If you can do this in software and take advantage of light speed learning then of course all we can do will be done by AI faster and better. In time humans and AI will be the same, AI will design all the tools and tech to make this possible. It's the only natural conclusion to humanities' ultimate goals.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by robotguy »

o_____________o wrote: post #233
robotguy wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oxford & Merriam-Webster list both plurals and the author calls out that octopi is "the quite beautiful plural form of 'octopus' " which could be interpreted as "while there are multiple correct plurals of octopus, octopi is the beautiful one." While “octopi” has become popular in modern usage, it’s wrong. I would argue that it used to be wrong, but language, unlike physics and code, is what the majority say it is. I…

I'd be interested in knowing what that documentary is called if you remember.

I’ll scour my watch history, I’m pretty sure it was on Amazon Prime.

Meanwhile, if you think that sounds interesting I’d highly recommend the documentary Helvetica.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by pwillia7 »

Very cool -- Looks like we started blogs at the same time using the same stack, down to the theme and even topic in part!

How do you have the multiple figures arranged in a div in markdown -- Is that using tables?

I also didn't want to be tied to a CLI so I write all my markdown files in PCloud (because Google Drive is an ass) and have a webhook button on my phone that grabs them all and deploys.

Also been very happy with https://typora.io/ which has pasted image settings to move them to a folder in the file's directory.

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