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Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by dalmo3 » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:07 PM UTC

exolymph wrote: post #102

mikecx wrote: post #79

Not sure if this will be considered off topic, my apologies if so. The article says that octopi is the plural of octopus, but it's actually octopuses. Octopus is originally Greek, not Latin and thus does not get the Latin plural -i, but instead would get the Greek plural -odes. Since it ends in a way English can deal with, the commonly accepted usage is octopuses (English) over octopodes (Greek) with octopi being the…

Actually the plural is "octopuppies."

You're all wrong. The plural of octopus is hexadecipus.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by hawski » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:07 PM UTC

Yajirobe wrote: post #45

dvt wrote: post #5

This might not be a popular opinion, but I think all the work OP put in here is probably worth more than 50-100 bucks (which is the price of a logo on something like Fiverr). And to make things worse, the logo itself still needs to be cleaned up[1] as it's way too blurry to be seriously used as an app icon, etc. [1] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cube2222/octosql/main/imag...

I thought the hardest part about logos is the idea itself? Doesn't matter that it's blurry - the majority of the work has been done.

80% of the work has been done. Now the remaining 20% will take 80% of the time.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by mitchdoogle » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:08 PM UTC

speedgoose wrote: post #25

jollyllama wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP might be able to achieve that with a few minutes in Illustrator or similar.

Starting up illustrator already takes a few minutes.

I think you might need a new computer

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by rw2 » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:09 PM UTC

I used Dall-E a lot and get into a lot of the same issues, I think Dall-e needs parameters that are fixed for things like:

-percentage of the entire drawing that the image you want to draw should take; a lot of times I think the object I want is too "zoomed in" or large; a circle background is a good way to limit it but I think it should be more obvious

-No way to fix the color of the background so that it can fade in easily to other images or design

-Reuse drawing styles to generate further image to explore further and maintain consistency

A syntax could be: Octopus juggling blue database cylinders, digital art, cute, image-size:40%, background-color:#304324. With image-size, and background-color being keywords in the definition

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by etskinner » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:11 PM UTC

mikecx wrote: post #79

Not sure if this will be considered off topic, my apologies if so. The article says that octopi is the plural of octopus, but it's actually octopuses. Octopus is originally Greek, not Latin and thus does not get the Latin plural -i, but instead would get the Greek plural -odes. Since it ends in a way English can deal with, the commonly accepted usage is octopuses (English) over octopodes (Greek) with octopi being the…

It's a loan word, there isn't any 'correct' or 'incorrect' answer. Language is always evolving, which is why dictionaries are often descriptive instead of prescriptive.

To wit: A blog post from Merriam-Webster: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-many-plura...

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by mkaic » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:13 PM UTC

woah wrote: post #83

This blog post proves that Dall-E 2 will not make human taste and design ability obsolete. The final image he ended up with is a lot uglier and more complicated than most of the intermediate steps. I think generative art AIs will have a similar effect on design as compilers have on software development, and will not put artists out of a job.

Will DALL•E 2 make human taste obsolete? No, absolutely not. But DALL•E 3? 4? Other similar models in the next 5 years? Absolutely yes. This blog post proves that with current algorithms, human input is needed, but it proves nothing about future algorithms.

In my personal opinion as an (admittedly junior) ML engineer and lifelong artist, we've got <10 years before the golden age of human-made art is completely over.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by mitchdoogle » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:14 PM UTC

jordanmorgan10 wrote: post #86

I had no idea that could you do the variations or the brush stuff. Maybe I’m just glossing right over it? But that seems to give the tool more utility. I just try a phrase and I either like it or I don’t. The fact that you can integrate on it seems to make it much more useful.

You definitely glossed over it - the Dall-E 2 homepage has the three main features of the program with examples (Image Generation, Edits to Existing Images, and Variations of the image)

https://openai.com/dall-e-2/

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by parksy » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:14 PM UTC

From a design point of view, with all the back and forth and the need to curate and guide the algorithm, I think we're a way off getting perfect results from prompts alone at this stage.

I can see an immediate use-case for an AI layer in apps like photoshop, figma, sketchapp, gimp, unreal engine, etc that works in the background to periodically fill-in based on the current canvas.

You could prompt for inspiration, then start cutting, erasing, moving things around, blending manually, hand-drawing some elements, then re-rolling the AI, rinse-repeat.

I'm sure someone's working on it already but it seems there's a lot of scope for integration into current workflows.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by monkeynotes » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:16 PM UTC

When AI reaches the point where we can talk to a system like DALL.E in real time and work with it to solve a problem, it's game over.

Art will become a commodity. Human art and ai art will be indistinguishable, "artists" will become as common as "photographers" since the inception of digital photography and social media.

Movie and TV scripts will be iterative with a creative director and AI working together.

Animation will become a lot easier, less people needed, fewer creatives.

Software will become easier and easier as developers will simply guide AI. This is already beginning to happen, but imagine paired programming with natural language interacting with an AI.

Architecture, civic planning, engineering, medical, law, policy, physics, it's all gonna change, and rapidly. DALL.E 2 shows how a leap in sophistication can revolutionize an industry overnight. Microsoft has exclusively licensed DALL.E 2, I can only imagine the myriad of creative tools it will serve the creative industry with.

The working in real-time will be the biggest leap. Asking DALL.E for an image and refining it as you talk is going to be nuts.

Re: I used DALL·E 2 to generate a logo

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Post by yieldcrv » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 8:18 PM UTC

> To be completely honest, I would prefer something slightly simpler with less complex shapes, but I failed to persuade Dall-e into generating that for me. Moreover, I really am content with this logo.

well, that's pragmatic! I think they should go back into their image editor and simplify it themselves though