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TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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collegeburner wrote: post #263
MichaelCollins wrote: post #257

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Men cry in the office too, but they're better at hiding it because the social expectations are different. A few times during crunches I've heard men sobbing in the restroom instead of at their desk. Men get told to 'man up', so they bottle it up or hide it.

counterpoint: no. i been in some pretty stressful environments and never reacted like that. same for most guys i know. maybe it's different where you are but i never seen it even in private like that or with close friends.

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Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by DonHopkins »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #435
Volundr wrote: post #395

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> You're a guy and play with a barbie... trans. This literally does not happen.

Depends on which bubble you live in.

It's hilarious that the first "answer" to the Quora question "How do you stop a boy from playing with dolls?" is a targeted ad saying "Ad by Amazon Web Services (AWS): AWS is how. AWS removes the complexity of building, training, and deploying machine learning models at any scale." ;)

They're "Action Servers", not "Doll Models"!

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-stop-a-boy-from-playing-wit...

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by kube-system »

navjack27 wrote: post #460
kube-system wrote: post #439

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Just because it is a "normal" thing doesn't mean it isn't something that medicine can address. Many of the unpleasant things our bodies go through are "normal" reactions to events. The fact that bereavement may be different than other causes of depression may be a reason to treat it differently, but not a reason to ignore it.

But should we be treating those kinds of things with a medication or should we be treating it with education? Should we be more forgiving to people and allowing them the space they need to process life events instead of worrying about money or their jobs or all this crap. The difference is handing someone a bottle and saying "here this will go away quick!" Vs just generally having a better more emotionally aware soci…

No, just because something is diagnosable doesn’t mean the treatment is a pill.

It is perfectly reasonable to address concerns about the bereavement process with therapy.

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by somesortofthing »

kkielhofner wrote: post #280
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #189

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The bar also got a lot lower than back then. You jump over the gaps in the tiles on the road? You must have OCD. You broke up with your bf/gf.. you must have depression. You're happy a bit? Bipolar disorder. You're a guy and play with a barbie... trans. Less horny, asexual. And let's not forget a bunch of adhd/autism and other disorders, when a kid gets bored in school. On the other hand, we have professionals (docto…

The language has shifted as well. You’re not sad, you’re depressed. You don’t worry, you have anxiety. Depression and anxiety are medical diagnoses. The other are normal emotions everyone can, should, and does experience. If you don’t ever worry or get sad about anything there’s probably something else wrong with you. In terms of diagnoses, the DSM-4 included a “bereavement exclusion” from the depression diagnostic c…

> Depression and anxiety are medical diagnoses. The other are normal emotions everyone can, should, and does experience.

Why? In what sense are they "normal"? They're unpleasant and they leave you worse off than you were before you experienced them. It's also becoming clearer that frequently experiencing them has harmful physical effects from stress responses. Over-diagnosis with depression and anxiety is bad because the treatments have such a wide array of potential side effects and limited evidence for efficacy, but it makes no sense to not categorize something as a disease just because we can't treat it.

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by chaoticmass »

I don't see it mentioned very often, but the whole "record yourself doing this funny dance" aspect of TikTok is, I think, a huge portion of why this is happening and is what makes it more powerful than other forms of social media. Getting people used to imitating what they see on the app could also be programming their minds to consciously/subconsciously imitate other things they see on there as well.

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by corobo »

bobkazamakis wrote: post #487
falcolas wrote: post #164

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We can't seem to have a discussion about neurological disorders without someone denying the existence - while trying to appear like they are not - of some of the best explored neurological disorders based on some fuzzy skepticism that displays they have read none of the vast swaths of scientific studies that exist on the topic. > By what process can someone reasonably determine that they are NOT neurodivergent? Easy:…

>Easy: is the severity of the ADHD and Autistic traits you exhibit low enough that they do not impair your ability to function on a day-to-day basis in society? If not, you don't have ADHD or Autism. Easy: define "function on a day-to-day basis in society"

They kinda went into that in the rest of the comment after what you quoted but if you need more there's a couple books that contain this information too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_deficit_hyperactivit...

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by MaxHoppersGhost »

raxxorraxor wrote: post #48
dimitrios1 wrote: post #41

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You don't have to be elite to be an involved parent. You just have to be involved. I have 2 so I know how easy it is to break out the digital babysitter, but even with the small amount I give mine I can see the influence it has, and I don't like it. I grew up with unfettered access to the internet before social media and now see how much it damaged me, I can only imagine what it is doing to kids today.

How did it damage you? And what do you think was the most negative influence?

Watching gore videos as a 12 year old probably isn’t good.

Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by [deleted] »

quasarj wrote: post #246
jnovek wrote: post #26

As an adult who struggles with ADHD that can be severely impairing, I’ve learned quite a few tricks from TikTok’s ADHD advocates. It’s definitely a coin with two sides. Edit: I’ve also learned to accept things about me that I can’t change. For example, I have a better outcome if I plan to be distracted rather than trying to fight my way through distraction.

I personally hate seeing all the ADHD stuff, I feel like most of those people are faking/wrong as well. But I don't know, maybe I just have ADHD? I just feel like they are always like "this is life with ADHD" and I'm like "what? that's just life? isn't that how everyone is?"

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Re: TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by sushid »

standardUser wrote: post #489
kkielhofner wrote: post #280

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The language has shifted as well. You’re not sad, you’re depressed. You don’t worry, you have anxiety. Depression and anxiety are medical diagnoses. The other are normal emotions everyone can, should, and does experience. If you don’t ever worry or get sad about anything there’s probably something else wrong with you. In terms of diagnoses, the DSM-4 included a “bereavement exclusion” from the depression diagnostic c…

I strongly disagree. I think most people I know are careful to not throw around the word "depression" when they talk about being sad. They are keenly aware of the difference. And they know the difference between "being anxious" or "having anxiety" and having an actual anxiety disorder. Of course, a lot of times the lines are blurred. Whole most medical professionals are forced to draw a stark line in order to make an…

No offense but if most people around you are throwing around the word "depression," I would personally consider that a red flag (unless you're in the medical profession). Either your friend circle are unusually showing symptoms of depression or they're misusing the term/self-diagnosing themselves.

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Post by Banana699 »

a_shovel wrote: post #371
badcppdev wrote: post #334

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Because boys are allowed to play with dolls. And shouldn't think it indicates they are trans or have gender dysphoria. It's not a sign of anything. Please don't misinterpret the comment. *Edit: removed the word diagnosed as wasn't in the original comment.*

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>the comment is still objectionable

No it isn't, there are plenty of people including me who believe that those things are mostly mental illnesses and\or trivial categories invented for novelty's sake. "Objectionable" implies that it's a mainstream opinion that those things are normal and healthy and the fringe opinion is that they're not, if anything, it's the reverse.

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