FWIW I found some serious un-Jobs-like inconsistencies in Lion. I thought the basic mission control concept was sound but there were too many key combinations from Snow Leopard left out, launchpad was a joke and Xcode was made free again. RIP Steve but I'm getting a Lenovo next time around.
Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
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Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it He meant, you can click anywhere in the window and use Alt. If you left-click, it moves the window. If you middle-click it (apparently - I did not know this) will resize the window. Mac OS X has oddly small targets for many of the Window management things. You have to be careful with the mouse when finding a resize corner…
FYI, I just installed duplicity and rdiff-backup through Homebrew and it worked flawlessly. Agree that MacPorts is crap. But Homebrew is actually pretty good.
I just ran:
sudo port install duplicity
sudo port install rdiff-backup
Worked flawlessly, too.
MacPorts isn't crap just because it isn't -- for whatever reason -- what you want.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#333What a waste of time it is to complain about the way someone else configured your system. You're the one who chose to use a window manager that doesn't offer custom keybindings. If you can't live with it, then either write your own window manager or switch to a OS that doesn't impose its dogma on you.
OSX is a non-contender in my book because of its complete disregard for the standard Unix directory structure, its use of registry files, its ancient BSD utilities last updated in the '90s, and its lack of a package manager that actually integrates with the rest of the system. Of course the window manager sucks too, but that's only if you judge according to functionality. To be a Mac aficionado, you've got to judge only according to how slick the UI looks. Right?
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
The technology has existed for decades to install applications without having to make potentially dangerous alterations to systemwide shared state. There's only so much you can blame on app developers. In the year 2011, shipping an OS that allows an application to corrupt the registry is just as stupid, if not stupider, than shipping an OS that allows the application to grab or generate arbitrary pointers into memory…
The problem here is that you think 'corrupted registry keys' means that the computer is unusable. A corrupted registry key just means that a setting hasn't been saved right - it could be as trivial as whether an app starts fullscreen or windowed. The GP's statement did not say that the system was faulty, just that he was experiencing errors and he reinstalled. On enquiry, they weren't system errors, but errors around…
You'll also notice I never said I reinstalled because of the error I was having (I eventually found a FixIt to do it), but the reinstalls were for other things.
The corrupted registry is just indicative of a problem which really should not happen.
a) If a corrupted registry key is stopping something happening, then why doesn't it take any action to try and resolve it? b) If an error code has a documented fix online, why was I not taken to it, or, even better, the fix placed in the distributable? c) Why should I have to remember random error codes at all? Why doesn't it give me an error message I can understand and at least try and take some action on?
What I find a bit odd about this whole thread is that you seem to take issue with the idea that one of Microsoft's own libraries not working means the OS is otherwise fine. Why not take the view that it's a library that's not distributed with the main install, but is a part of Windows? The Visual C++ libraries are used all the time. I feel like if we were talking about Ubuntu, where the packages are always separated, we wouldn't be drawing this invisible line between what is and isn't the OS.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I saw the previews for Lion I thought autosave seemed like overkill. When I'm working on anything I "autosave" by reaching over slightly and hitting CMD-S every time I make any small amount of progress. The last time I experienced significant data/progress loss was probably about 3 years ago before I developed this habit. I don't see what problem they're trying to fix.
"When I'm working on anything I "autosave" by reaching over slightly and hitting CMD-S every time I make any small amount of progress." I would say this is exactly the problem they are trying to fix.
Hahah, maybe, but I'm happy doing it. I have control that way. I can't tell the computer to stop auto-saving can I? That way I can take risks when I'm coding etc and always revert what I did if it was a mistake.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
When's the last time you used one? There've been multiple desktops ("Spaces") since 2006. And I've never had any confusion between copying, pasting, and cutting. Ever. Unless you're talking about expecting that weird-ass Windows behavior where you "cut" files to copy them around? Why's "open two windows and drag stuff to move, maybe with alt held down to copy" so hard? OSX makes a big distinction between "quitting an…
Last time I used a Mac? As I said this is my first one ever. My comparisons are the different behaviour between Mac, Linux and Windows or specifically how Windows and Linux are similar but Apple OS X is just slightly (annoyingly) different. I right-click on a file there isn't any visible/intuitive option to move not copy that file to another location other than just copy it. Don't you find that weird? Forget keyboard…
You complain OSX is different from your previous experience. That's unreasonable. Macs have always been about simplicity and consistency building a predictable user experience.
My experience with Macs is, like I said before, as a casual user with occasional work done in terminal sessions and Emacs (which is consistent on every computer I have), but you can trust me on that - the differences between the environments will get burned into your brain soon enough and you'll be able to easily switch between contexts.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But there was no good reason to remove the 'all app expose' feature, leaving only the within app expose. They either just overlooked it or want to brainwash users into some sort of app centric paradigm. Do you mean the "Show all Windows for the current app"? I'm pretty sure it's still there. Might have a different gesture tho.
No I mean there used to be two forms of expose - show all within app, which I almost never used (it would only be useful if you had a truly ridiculous number of windows open, really), and show all windows across all applications including the finder. They've taken away the latter, which was the useful one. Most times I hit expose in the past it was to go to a window of another application. For instance switching betw…
Totally agreed. To add more reasons:
1. I don't have money for an SSD right now, and Mission Control can take up to 10 seconds to start, presumably because some stuff on another Space had been swapped to disk. I just used a friend's 800 MHz iMac G4 at a party and damn, Exposé was instant!
2. I don't even want to see stuff on another space. I move apps on spaces to FOCUS, not to see my unwritten report at the top of my desktop when switching apps on one space.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're not the only one to use vertical maximization. I really liked being able to middle-click the maximize button for vertical, or right-click for horizontal. It seems that's no longer the case in Gnome-3-hacked-to-look-like-Gnome-2-in-Ubuntu-11.10. I suppose it's replaced by Windows 7-style border dragging, but that's less flexible as you can only do maximize, left half, or right half.
Windows 7 actually supports explicit vertical maximization; dragging the top of a window to the top of the screen will maximize the app vertically but leave its width unchanged.
Double clicking the vertical resizer also maximizes vertically.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…
I think some of the points are valid; there may be solutions but they are so obscure that people obviously never discover them. I've had a MBP for nearly a year now and never knew that Fn+Left/Right substituted for Home/End (thanks for the tip, btw). I can't see myself guessing Cmd+Shift+G to type paths into Finder either... They're valid solutions but normally Linux is (not unjustifiably) castigated for requiring ob…
The issue there is that coming from a Windows environment the terminology isn't exactly the same. The command is called "go", hence Cmd + Shift + G.
It would be useful if one could enter keystrokes into the search bar in the 'Help' panel. That would solve a lot of keystroke identification issues and familiarize them with OS X fairly quickly.
Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.
#340I came from a windows background, tinkered with Linux for a few years on and off, and when I started my current job I was given a Macbook Pro. After a few months of using it I as so frustrated, and found myself spending more and more time in my Ubuntu virtual machine, that when they were ordering new MBPs for the design team I offered to give mine up to a designer and buy a ThinkPad, thus saving the company over $1,0…
Looks like you gave up on it before trying. It can do everything you complain about.
Homebrew beats apt-get any day of the week.