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200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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I will say, SSD pricing is pretty frustrating. There's a lot of focus on faster and faster nvme that's barely noticeable while actual capacity has really stagnated at around 2-4tb. As someone who is very into photography, it takes not very long to fill 2tb of space. If I could buy a cheap 16tb ssd with fast reads and slow writes I'd be a happy camper but it doesn't exist unless I want to buy spinning disks (I don't)

Why you need SSD for photography? An HD seems a better solution to be honest, isn't? Opening a single picture is a sequential operation, as well as dumping pictures from camera to disk. Am I missing something obvious?

>Opening a single picture is a sequential operation

Exactly what i was thinking!

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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I will say, SSD pricing is pretty frustrating. There's a lot of focus on faster and faster nvme that's barely noticeable while actual capacity has really stagnated at around 2-4tb. As someone who is very into photography, it takes not very long to fill 2tb of space. If I could buy a cheap 16tb ssd with fast reads and slow writes I'd be a happy camper but it doesn't exist unless I want to buy spinning disks (I don't)

Yeah, I'd gladly take a cheap large capacity SSD that can only do 500MB/s for storing data. It's still gonna be much faster, quieter and cooler than a HDD. Looking at the prices, they have barely gone down at all in the last 3 years (for the same specs). And the best price per capacity is still at 1TB.

Some of that is probably covid supply shortages. SSDs have controllers, and controllers have chips.

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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I will say, SSD pricing is pretty frustrating. There's a lot of focus on faster and faster nvme that's barely noticeable while actual capacity has really stagnated at around 2-4tb. As someone who is very into photography, it takes not very long to fill 2tb of space. If I could buy a cheap 16tb ssd with fast reads and slow writes I'd be a happy camper but it doesn't exist unless I want to buy spinning disks (I don't)

Why you need SSD for photography? An HD seems a better solution to be honest, isn't? Opening a single picture is a sequential operation, as well as dumping pictures from camera to disk. Am I missing something obvious?

Not the person you replied to, but bulk exports from something like Lightroom or Capture One benefit from faster speeds. If you have a fast enough CPU and enough memory, the main bottleneck is I/O. It doesn't matter for a few photos, but when you want to (for example) convert a whole trip worth of processed raws to JPG, every MB/sec counts.

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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Probably relavent: This is an SSD?! from Linux Tech Tips ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4AKeW0Y-F0 ) They introduce in the program PureStorage's FlashBlade, which uses Intel Xeon CPUs as the controller for SSDs. https://www.purestorage.com/products/file-and-object/flashbl...

Pure is basically an enterprise flash storage company. Great products, but FlashBlade specifically has issues with maximum single stream performance due to their architecture. But why are you posting an ad for Pure?

I am not familiar with this. I just watched the video yesterday and found it interesting to know that enterprises are considering alternative controllers, and also caches which would enable SSD with larger sizes.

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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I will say, SSD pricing is pretty frustrating. There's a lot of focus on faster and faster nvme that's barely noticeable while actual capacity has really stagnated at around 2-4tb. As someone who is very into photography, it takes not very long to fill 2tb of space. If I could buy a cheap 16tb ssd with fast reads and slow writes I'd be a happy camper but it doesn't exist unless I want to buy spinning disks (I don't)

I have a Canon R5, and i ended up with almost 800gb of storage in 8k raw, for a concert I did. I didn't even take that many videos as the camera overheated.

But a 4:20 video was 77gb. I have a 8bay(5 disks in raid 5) nas, but the performance isn't so good. Not good enough to edit, I use the 1tb nvme I have, but lots of swapping when I need to edit.

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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I will say, SSD pricing is pretty frustrating. There's a lot of focus on faster and faster nvme that's barely noticeable while actual capacity has really stagnated at around 2-4tb. As someone who is very into photography, it takes not very long to fill 2tb of space. If I could buy a cheap 16tb ssd with fast reads and slow writes I'd be a happy camper but it doesn't exist unless I want to buy spinning disks (I don't)

Why you need SSD for photography? An HD seems a better solution to be honest, isn't? Opening a single picture is a sequential operation, as well as dumping pictures from camera to disk. Am I missing something obvious?

Laptops tend to not have HDD slots anymore.

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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I will say, SSD pricing is pretty frustrating. There's a lot of focus on faster and faster nvme that's barely noticeable while actual capacity has really stagnated at around 2-4tb. As someone who is very into photography, it takes not very long to fill 2tb of space. If I could buy a cheap 16tb ssd with fast reads and slow writes I'd be a happy camper but it doesn't exist unless I want to buy spinning disks (I don't)

I have a Canon R5, and i ended up with almost 800gb of storage in 8k raw, for a concert I did. I didn't even take that many videos as the camera overheated. But a 4:20 video was 77gb. I have a 8bay(5 disks in raid 5) nas, but the performance isn't so good. Not good enough to edit, I use the 1tb nvme I have, but lots of swapping when I need to edit.

AFAICT this has been documented quite well. Use a SSD as cache. Easy to do with ZFS. The one I use on my NAS is one TB, it cost 200 EUR. It has the benefit of not causing data loss at power loss.

Re: 200TB SSDs could come soon thanks to Micron's new chip

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at something like Intel 660p? They're pretty crappy as SSDs go, but they're quite cheap (by about 40% compared to what I would put into my desktop, at least where I live).

Largest size is only 2 TB, and they aren’t cheaper than e.g. Samsung QVO, as far as I can see.

The Intel 660p is a higher-tier product than Samsung QVO drives. Both use QLC, but the Intel drives are NVMe and thus have much higher peak performance (when operating out of the SLC cache). But Intel wasn't interested in pursuing the niche of users who wanted more than 2TB in a consumer drive.
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