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Facebook and twitter are out of ideas. What bothers me the most is the failure of both executive teams on multiple levels, but yet again it's the workers that end up with the short of end of the stick. Zuckerberg says be on the lookout for low performers so he can cut 10% of his staff, he needs to look in the mirror...
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I've posited before on HN that Facebook is dying based on my observations as a long time user. A lot of people said I was wrong and it's strength is in it groups and marketplaces. I wouldn't know because I don't get a lot of satisfaction from groups and I don't use the marketplace, but people say that they serve as a small town gathering place in a lot of locations, sort like Craigslist was for awhile. I don't see ho…
>I've posited before on HN that Facebook is dying based on my observations as a long time user. A lot of people said I was wrong and it's strength is in it groups and marketplaces. People said you were wrong, not because you were technically wrong, but because what you said was dilute to the point of being meaningless. All great things die. Look at the great companies of old: GE, Sears, IBM. They all suck now. One da…
I've read young people say over and over again that Facebook is for old people. Becoming more like TikTok is not going to change their minds.
If you'd like to catch up on the conversation we had 4 months ago here it is:
Ask HN: Is Facebook Dying? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30860859
I found the conversation to be very instructive. Many people seem to agree with you that it is not dying. I'm not convinced (and I'm not talking about $, I'm talking about overall cultural relevance and interest in the platform. I'm sure they'll find ways to squeeze money out of old people like me. I've been seeing a lot crypto ads lately)
"He Not Busy Being Born Is Busy Dying" - Bob Dylan
Influencers culture has killed social media platforms, most ppl want to be influencers today to make easy money. Back in the days social media platforms were used to connect with friends and maybe strangers just for the sake of socializing. Not anymore
Even before “influencers” young people often wanted to be media or athletic stats of some sort, so that isn’t new. The drive to increase “engagement” and ad reviews is killing it (which is related to influencers). YouTube is basically unwatchable without an way to block ads. Young people began to abandon Facebook when they opened it up to everyone and let boomers spam their family and friends with every political cha…
The Tiktok algorithm we have rewards repetitive dancing in front of the camera, pulling ("fake") pranks and random snippets from movies edited together with dramatic music added. In China (their app is called Douyin), the algorithm rewards things they want their youth to be doing. Content which involves maths, engineering, medicine, etc are rewarded. I'm certain that there is some strategic motive from China to push…
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Those that don't have Facebook are already disadvantaged in that way. They don't get invited to the party, they aren't told about life updates via the feed. But you soon self-select for friends that don't use Facebook and that do invite you to parties and tell you about things. That same divide isn't going to go away, no matter the technology. (ofc replace Facebook with whatever app is popular with your group.)
Perhaps from your vantage point. My vantage point is more and more people are ditching the social sites for real connections again. A few years ago when privacy issue after privacy issue came out, and the revelations on how manipulated we all are on social media by algorithms, my circle decided to ditch social media. I was always the "pioneer" in this front, having ditched it around 2015 or so. The craziest thing sta…
Social media and Websites in general are like TV shows or recording artists - they exist within an era and eventually become legacy/classic and irrelevant to the new youth culture. No one wants to engage with the same cultural artifacts of their parents or the previous generation. They want to establish themselves as a distinct cultural era and need symbols, etc that are distinct.
Still, young people actually listen to 60s, 70s and 80s pop music.
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IG doesn’t have any of the people directory. It’s heavily focused on bigger brands, profiles, influencers, and seeing random stuff from these entities I have no personal relation with. Facebook of old was like what the OP was saying. IG is only marginally like that with friends pic posts. This is regardless of whatever tiktok stuff since I don’t use IG much for the same reasons as OP.
Facebook was popular in the era when it wasn't used as a people directory however. It was used as instagram is currently until older people came in and the website became very commercialized.
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Is there innovation? Seems like Tiktok is just a more "evil" iteration of Vine.
lol, why do you think tiktok is evil? seems the xenophobic propaganda is being successful. there isnt a single valid arguement that 'tiktok is evil' that doesn't apply even better to facebook or youtube.
I hope someone working at YouTube see this. I was watching Shorts and it's infested with literal horse fucking videos from countless India spam channels. NSFW example: https://youtube.com/shorts/8Pd4s07vIq0?feature=share
A good analysis. Whether you like it or not, Tiktok is a classic example of disruption. They've not only circumvented the moat of their biggest competitors, but made it a liability - FB & Insta can't just abandon the social graph without disenfranchinsing their existing users. Absolutely textbook innovation.