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Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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The stadia tech is remarkably good but I still don’t understand what their target market is. They seem to be targeting people who don’t want the expense of buying a gaming pc or a console but, for some reason, also have extremely good high bandwidth, low-latency broadband. The intersection of these two groups seems remarkably small.

The people who have extremely low latency internet are all behind a corp or acad firewall

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Sometimes I wish I had the shamelessness some people have, it seems to be a great way to advance your career.

I wish I could figure out the secret handshake that gets you hired to one prominent, presumably high-paid, spitballin' and chattin' and "idea person" role after another, despite a track record of apparent mediocrity in actual results. Seems like it'd be really fun and—plainly—not very hard work.

At that level I think it's just more sales than substance. Many people are great salespeople without realizing it, I think this contributes to the phenomenon of failing upward.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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I doubt they'll credit anyone. Why would they? You purchased a license to play a game through their service. Their service is no longer there. I haven't gone through any terms of service for Stadia but I can't imagine that they aren't covered for this.

Something something EU consumer protection law, stuff needs 2 year warranty, and if it breaks in that time you either have to replace or refund the customers. Doubly so if you knew the product wouldn't last 2 years.

Not sure if the German Gewährleistung applies to video games, but if it does you might be able to wield that since not being able to play the game anymore definitely is a major defect.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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It's come a long way since pre-Stadia that's for sure. Can't get around the monthly fee though.

Is performance better now? I was in the beta when there wasn't a limited selection of games and my friend used the free version once it came out of beta about a year and a half ago.

Its performance is unparalleled among cloud gaming services at the moment with the updates over the past year or so, Stadia is now a blurry, poorly upscaled mess in comparison, often locked at 30-45fps for certain titles while GFN is pushing real 4K at 120FPS with full ray tracing etc without breaking a sweat.

https://youtu.be/B1bIGi1yjC8

It will routinely outperform a local series x (nevermind a PS5) given the right conditions, but that’s subject to your ISP, location, and probably not running CP2077 at maxed out ultra RTX graphics settings just yet.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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This is what so depressing about the CS biz. Any senior developer can provide the data that firmly explains why a product like Stadia does not work. Still, some of these “beyond belief” garbage marketing people think that somehow, they are going to circumvent basic physics principles. Fire everybody involved.

They pay full price per game to stream is Stadia's problem, not physics. It technically works very well. They just never even came close to a compelling business model.

I use the Xbox streaming all the time, it is works very well. What makes it work is it comes bundled with Game Pass - so you can download and game in the library, or stream most of them. Streaming is an amazing way to try games without committing to multi-GB downloads. Saves time, disk space, and bandwidth when you are a dabbler.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Google seems to shut down services mostly on the basis of adoption being too low. For its scale, tens of millions of users could mean a failure. However, those services could be profitable, just at a smaller scale. They could keep them around and exploit them without too much investments. This is what other large companies do, they won't break the experience for their customers because they value them. Google has ano…

Maybe Google's problem is that as a company they are set up to run products of google-scale. They could start a subsidiary company that gets all of the "too small for google" products, keeping them alive build customer trust and maybe even turn a profit

They can’t! Their monorepo, build system and internal deployment infrastructure makes it technically and legally very expensive, thus politically impossible. It’s so much easier to just shut down anything not making enough insert metric instead of spinning it off.

Disclaimer: haven’t ever worked at Google, so just guessing

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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What we need is a portable digital license. Like a card we can store in a sort of internet wallet and present to storefronts to get access to a game. That way publishers wouldn’t be able to bully customers to the extent they currently do. No way the gaming community would be opposed to such a thing.

Publishers and developers wouldn't sign onto that because they don't want a resale market. How would you convince them to support that?

Make the license non-transferable. Then there is no resale market.
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