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Three sure bets in life: * Death * Taxes * Google shutting down services Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning, but I feel for consumers who buy into googles promises and even a bit for the google engineers who may be out of work soon.
Incredibly, some people still use GCP
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Are you serious? They bought the game, now they don't have the game. They didn't rent it. Google still exists, and has plenty of money to make all Stadia customers whole by buying them a retail copy of all of the games. But they choose not to because they are greedy. Note: I am not a Stadia customer because I figured this would happen.
> They didn't rent it. It's a service isn't it? You play it online. You got to play it. Not sure what makes you think I can't be serious about that? If I want to play a game I don't care if I 'buy' it or rent it - I care about the playing. They asked what they got from it - they got to play the game. Wasn't that the point?
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Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang. Killing of stadia only reaffirms peoples fear to use google products. This includes GCP.
I have definitely avoided Stadia because I wanted to give it some 5 years to see if it wouldn't be another dead Google project. I really didn't want to be right but here we are... I'm glad to be forever cautious with Google's new products, they've burnt me a few times the past 15 years.
"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.
> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…
Why can't everything be licensed directly from the right owner of a game so that the license of a game can be transferred from one streaming service to another?
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The top reply to this is excellent. It's ignorant to compare cloud gaming, where you NEED the cloud to play that game license, to docs/photos etc.. where you can download them if the cloud service shuts down. Everyone on HN predicted this, and the only way I would have ever trusted Stadia would be with a CEO-level promise of refunding all purchases if they shut down within 10 years. That's honestly the magic of Nvidi…
I remember the same debate when steam came out. Well if steam shuts down tomorrow all the games will be lost. So better keep your Gaming CDs. Betting on steam worked out thus far. I really like how nvidia solved this problem. Elegant solution.
it's just a small bit of hex editing away from being steamless
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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…
>Theres nothing I can say now to make you believe if you don't Why can't everything be licensed directly from the right owner of a game so that the license of a game can be transferred from one streaming service to another?
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Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang. Killing of stadia only reaffirms peoples fear to use google products. This includes GCP.
Google could have side-stepped this by offering a Game Pass-style all-you-can-eat subscription service instead of full-price games. While I'll be bummed if one of those subscription services goes away, I won't feel as if something I own is being taken away from me.
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Actually, this strategy works for google. Google enters these markets and then kills it for any possible future competitors. In the short run, it's a loss, in the long run, you nullify new possible competitors.
Wut? Geforce NOW absolutely trampled Stadia. It was just no contest at all. And if Geforce Now goes under I retain all my games, because it’s all linked to Steam and Epic.
But I still prefer Geforce for exactly the reason you give--still having the games regardless of what happens with the streaming service.
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I remember the same debate when steam came out. Well if steam shuts down tomorrow all the games will be lost. So better keep your Gaming CDs. Betting on steam worked out thus far. I really like how nvidia solved this problem. Elegant solution.
with steam at least the data and executable are on my machine it's just a small bit of hex editing away from being steamless
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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…
The top reply to this is excellent. It's ignorant to compare cloud gaming, where you NEED the cloud to play that game license, to docs/photos etc.. where you can download them if the cloud service shuts down. Everyone on HN predicted this, and the only way I would have ever trusted Stadia would be with a CEO-level promise of refunding all purchases if they shut down within 10 years. That's honestly the magic of Nvidi…
They wanted the lock in. They did it for profit margin. Because people like the Director of Product the GP mentions hops from one role to the next its all short term nonsense.