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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by robertakarobin »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #192
SilverBirch wrote: post #66

You would really hope there would be some far reaching repercussions for senior leadership at Google on this one. There are lots of projects that Google has tried and failed on, and sure, that happens. But this one is probably the clearest, obvious failure of execution. There is an absolutely crystal clear playbook of a Tech company forcing its way into the Gaming business. So how Google has managed to enter, complet…

No. In fact, the incompetent people at the head of those projects fail upwards. Take Phil Harrison, who is at the head of Stadia (not Stadia Games and Studios): - Worked at Sony Entertainment, handling the software side of things, was there to help for the massive fuckup that was the PS3 launch. - Got fired (or "resigned" in C-level speak), joined Infogrames (soon to become Atari) and majorly fucked up, saying that s…

We call that a Shit Midas, where everything they touch turns to shit.

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Post by est31 »

candl wrote: post #138

I am fearful of adopting Flutter for this reason.

Flutter is different as it is 100% OSS so if Google cancels it, its development could theoretically be continued outside of Google. Of course, this depends on the presence of enough demand for that. Mozilla has laid off their full time Rust staff (including some people whose actual responsibility was different but they still contributed to the Rust compiler) and the Rust project survived. Instead these people got hired by companies like Amazon and Futurewei. Some are less involved in Rust now, some return. Some risk remains though, as if nobody is using Flutter, nobody will keep it alive.

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

unpopularopp wrote: post #124
ChildOfChaos wrote: post #20

I absolutely hope not. Stadia has provided an excellent game night for me and my remote friend (who is on a Mac) this year and we've had a blast, we mostly play little party games as nither of us our big gamers, but it makes for an excellent night,i've bought a couple of games on it that i've yet to even get too and plan to buy some more and enjoy the odd hour or two in the evenings. Stadia removes all fraction and m…

GamePass Ultimate (Xbox Cloud gaming) does streaming perfectly so as Nvidia Geforce Now

Not tried GamePass as it's expensive and a subscription service unlike Stadia, I used Geforce now before and it wasn't very good. My friend reports Stadia works far better for them when compared to Geforce now which is not as well optomised / laggy etc. I think it might require a stronger connection that what she has, where as Stadia works flawlessly.

Not sure if game pass is better but the price would put me off a little bit, because we only play for a few hours every couple of weeks.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by endisneigh »

Havoc wrote: post #187
endisneigh wrote: post #88

This is absolutely false. Feel free to quote this post in October. HN has a pretty high caliber of commenter compared to other forums. People believing a baseless rumor so easily is sad.

>People believing a baseless rumor so easily is sad. There is an incredibly long list of precedents: https://killedbygoogle.com Scroll through that and once you get to the bottom tell me people are still being unreasonable... I am glad to hear (anonymous) confirmation that it isn't getting killed though.

That list is irrelevant. Even if Google had never killed a product before, it would be worth believing if there is solid evidence.

Here, there is none.

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Post by yieldcrv »

Another decade another failed cloud gaming service.

Is Playstation Now really the only successful/stable one? A key observation being that its not even advertised as a cloud gaming service and is just integrated into other offerings.

The other services don’t seem to have age on their side for me to compare.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by petesergeant »

OrangeMonkey wrote: post #2

Three sure bets in life: * Death * Taxes * Google shutting down services Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning, but I feel for consumers who buy into googles promises and even a bit for the google engineers who may be out of work soon.

Incredibly, some people still use GCP

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Post by Sebb767 »

jsnell wrote: post #75

This is an anonymous source (not even verified by the original publicizer of the rumor) reporting second hand on what their "regional manager" friend heard in a "seminar". Why give any credence to this? This is about as close as it gets to "my friend has an uncle working at Nintendo" level of sourcing, but it's being taken as absolute fact by basically everyone in this thread. Mr. Killedbygoogle doesn't seem to be al…

It also plays right into peoples biases, so they'll keep their doubt low. If I were to spread any rumor to get my ten minutes of fame, Stadia shutting down would be the rumor to spread.

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Post by [deleted] »

dougmwne wrote: post #48
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #2

Three sure bets in life: * Death * Taxes * Google shutting down services Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning, but I feel for consumers who buy into googles promises and even a bit for the google engineers who may be out of work soon.

You know, in this case I don’t think Stadia was a joke. I think it was a completely sincere effort to compete with a new kind of “console” in the game industry. They had hired a gaming industry executive to lead the effort, started several in-house game dev projects, and starting negotiating streaming exclusives with many studios (much to the annoyance of people who owned games on GeForce Now who had them removed). I…

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Post by justanorherhack »

gambiting wrote: post #212
MichaelCollins wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to download a pirate's crack to play a game, you may as well download a pirate version of the game in the first place. I don't see much substantial difference between these two scenarios. Steam is a DRM system with good branding, that gamers treat as special because it comes from Valve. Anecdotally, a lot of gamers believe and trust that Valve would free their games of DRM if Valve ever went out of busine…

>>I don't see much substantial difference between these two scenarios. In one you paid for the product, in other you didn't. I'd think that's a pretty substantial difference?

His point is highlighting that even if you pay for it you don’t actually own the game. In this weird market you only own the game if you pirate it.

Ip laws are the worst and terrible for the market. Especially the media companies that just recharge you for for the same content just to watch it on a different medium.

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Post by petesergeant »

wrayjustin wrote: post #46
petercooper wrote: post #6

I avoided checking Stadia out in the first place as I thought they'd end up shutting it down after prior experiences. This seems a difficult branding loop to break, but does them no favors.

It really doesn't! The common responses you hear in these types of threads include "I didn't even try it; because I knew it would get killed." And of course, this results in lower turnout, and eventual death of the offering. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. So what's Google to even do? * They could burn money and keep the offering afloat to "prove" they are serious (seems to be the case with Stadia). *…

> So what's Google to even do?

Spin off non-core companies as soon as humanly possible with some investment and simply be a (majority) investor in them instead.

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