Would have tried Stadia but if streaming then GamePass Ultimate is just a much better value. Already does the same + huge library + you can play on PC and Xbox too. Stadia was just the streaming and top of that you had to buy the games too (70€ is the new standard for AAA games). It was doa.
Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down
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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down
#62Google> we'll engineer a cloud gaming service
Gamers> um have you even met us? What about the speed of light?
Google> we'll beat the speed of light using genius engineering
Gamers> lol
Google> we're shutting down because nobody uses us
Gamers> lol
Yet another case of having never spoken to the actual customer
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#63"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.
It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.
That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.
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#64I have no proof but I called it on day one. This never stood a chance. It made no sense. They could've saved billions of dollars by just talking to me for 5 minutes, a gamer.
It was (is? Because rumor?) for casual players and not gamers
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#65"The source also claims that there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." There clearly needs to be a law to make such things illegal. I've refused to take the discount on digital Switch games since Nintendo has clearly shown they are willing to shut down old servers and tell you to just buy your games again. But…
I have this pipe dream that the digital markets act forces consoles to either allow sideloading and lose basically all of the profits on their ecosystems, or remove digital markets entirely and go back to physical games only.
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#66You would really hope there would be some far reaching repercussions for senior leadership at Google on this one. There are lots of projects that Google has tried and failed on, and sure, that happens. But this one is probably the clearest, obvious failure of execution. There is an absolutely crystal clear playbook of a Tech company forcing its way into the Gaming business. So how Google has managed to enter, completely fuck up, screw around partners, screw around customers and then leave all within the span of 3 years is just fantastic.
And it's not just that, because Google's reputation for giving up on anything remotely difficult, no one bought into it in the first place. I would wager there are entire market segments that Google can just never enter now since they have done such a good job at branding themselves unreliable. It reminds me of a Petrostate where a country has huge wealth because of what they're sitting on, but that same wealth destroys their ability to develop anything meaningfully different.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or transferred to the strategy department to decide what the next in thing is so they can build multiple versions of it, seeing as they are now bored of messaging.
Nah - they're only taking a temporary break from messaging apps... They'll be back at it in a year or two.
They're not taking a break. I was just force-migrated from "hangouts" to "chat with gmail."
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#68> The source also claims that there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down. This is precisely why I didn't try Stadia. I never expected anything more from Google.
I would hope that Google can afford a few game licenses in order to keep their customers from feeling robbed.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning I don't see anything wrong with the premise of the service or even from what I understand the technical execution. Seems like the failure was around business development, marketing, community management, and brand reputation. I haven't followed to closely though so other would know better than me.
The failure was around tech. We are not there yet. Speed of light is what needs to be overcome in order for this kind of service to be viable. Until then no amount of money, business development, marketing, brand reputation will ever make this viable.
Using the (discontinued) Steam remote dongle over wireless device to put a game from my computer in one room to a TV in the living room about 5-10 yards away introduced noticeable latency to a game. Obviously things like Stadia are a lot worse. There is only so much that can be done with this kind of technology. I think people are more tolerant of it for specific use cases like being able to play any game you want on a hotel internet connection while you're traveling for work, but given how affordable hardware is it doesn't really make sense as a home entertainment service except for the third world, which was not their target market anyway.
Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down
#70I've been using Stadia since day one. It's a really terrific execution of cloud gaming. It would be a real shame if it did get shut down. I hope the rumors are false.