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Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by sulam »

game-of-throws wrote: post #10
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #2

Three sure bets in life: * Death * Taxes * Google shutting down services Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning, but I feel for consumers who buy into googles promises and even a bit for the google engineers who may be out of work soon.

Does Google usually fire people when they shut down a service? I thought they were transferred internally to help build the next messaging app.

Depends on the people. In the Stadia case there were people hired to build first party games in Montreal and some of the skills needed for that don’t have a natural place to go elsewhere inside of Google. I don’t know this for sure, but I expect many of those people were given a package and had to find new employers. People with transferable skills were moved onto other teams at Google depending on who needed those skills - effectively they were broken up for parts. And of course the enterprise service is still there and some of the people are still needed to keep it going.

My impression is that Google has actually changed how new initiatives are funded from the exec layer, such that there’s less likelihood of completely overlapping products being created, such as a new messaging service. I could be wrong about that, and even if I’m right it might change again in the future, but at least for now I’d be surprised to see a new messaging service get launched.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by gre »

FVYPblNGl7R9ZAc wrote: post #63
Ken_At_EM wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.

That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.

Amazon once told me that the music I had purchased was no longer available. I lost access to a digital music purchase...

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by unpopularopp »

falcolas wrote: post #95
sithadmin wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't call Stadia a joke. It does in fact work quite well. But it's not really positioned to compete with the other first-party console alternatives, nor does it have compelling features that make it a better choice than products let you DIY an experience (e.g. Parsec + self-hosted gaming rig, Steam Remote Play, GeForce Now, GPU-accelerated VDI as a service like Shadow...). For a while Google was literally givin…

Stadia works quite well if you live in a big city adjacent to their data centers. It’s pretty ass otherwise.

Did you try Xbox Cloud gaming? Cause I live in a pretty small town in Eastern Europe and it works flawlessly. Does Microsoft doing something better or Stadia was just that bad?

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by SilverBirch »

jeffbee wrote: post #77
SilverBirch wrote: post #66

You would really hope there would be some far reaching repercussions for senior leadership at Google on this one. There are lots of projects that Google has tried and failed on, and sure, that happens. But this one is probably the clearest, obvious failure of execution. There is an absolutely crystal clear playbook of a Tech company forcing its way into the Gaming business. So how Google has managed to enter, complet…

Do you think senior leadership was involved? It seems just as likely that some platforms engineers figured they could mess around with hardware on the edge and got it shipped from the bottom up.

No, they had a huge push behind it at one point, they even had internal game development studios and hired inhouse game devs, which they then proceeded to fire less than 18 months later. That's right, from new platform to fired in less than 18 months. It's a shameful way to run a company.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by Hamuko »

clessg wrote: post #107
londons_explore wrote: post #41

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I suspect they'll just refund all users that complain. Adoption of stadia was sufficiently small that Google will pay the full refund cost just to prevent PR damage or lawsuit losses (and take the loss themselves, because the game developer isn't going to want to give a refund).

> I suspect they'll just refund all users that complain. Problem is, it's Google. Who are you going to complain to, and where? You'll be lucky if there's even a way to submit a complaint, much less one that gets read by a human. I suppose you could use the good old Tell HN technique!

Google One customers should at least have some kind of a live chat available.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by giraffe_lady »

spywaregorilla wrote: post #52
nickthegreek wrote: post #47

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I pre-ordered a game on stadia over a year ago. Somehow I had a feeling the sevice wouldnt be around once the game came out.

why did you do that?

I'm not the person you asked but I've used stadia as my main gaming "platform" over the last couple years. That they were going to shut it down was obvious from the beginning, people in here bragging about that prediction are fools.

It's still by far the best game streaming setup for what I want. I spent about $100 figuring I'd get a year or two out of it and it would be worth it for that. It was. If it continues through the end of the year I'll have gotten a lot more than I expected to.

When they shut it down I will probably just stop playing video games again until a similarly simple and effective service pops up, probably years from now or possibly never.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by tempest_ »

fatjokes wrote: post #25

It was a perfectly sensible strategic bet. 5G = easy streaming everything everywhere Their mistake was assuming the American telecoms would actually deliver real 5G in any reasonable amount of time. Maybe they should've tested it in the Korean market.

Which was a stupid bet given the problems things like OnLive had.

They also had that bald dude out there doing tone def interviews talking like everyone has internet like the bay area and if they didn't then those customers didn't matter.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by delecti »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #67
londons_explore wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah - they're only taking a temporary break from messaging apps... They'll be back at it in a year or two.

They're not taking a break. I was just force-migrated from "hangouts" to "chat with gmail."

It's less of a migration and more of a rebranding. The same service has gone by the name Chat > Hangouts > Chat but has been pretty consistent through each step.
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