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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by rswail »

HeyItsMatt wrote: post #173
ekianjo wrote: post #141

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How do people without guns inside a government building control anything exactly?

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Sorry, it wasn't and isn't a "media narrative" that is relevant here. Neither is there anything related to the trope of the "MSM" or power of the FAANGS.

There was obvious collusion and conspiracy to cause the properly cast and certified electoral college votes to be questioned.

There was also obvious collusion and conspiracy to a) riot, and b) attempt to occupy the Capitol, and c) stop the actual process of counting the electoral college votes, both real and fake.

So there were two different, but intertwined, especially at the top, conspiracies to stop the process of the transfer of power.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by permo-w »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #90
robswc wrote: post #77

I know it sounds dumb but its hard to say we haven't moved closer to what only ~10 years ago we considered a "playful exaggeration" on the worst of humans and social media. In WallE, everyone is floating around in chairs having their content spoon-fed to them with a generous amount of ads mixed in. If you've ever scrolled or seen someone scroll, its kinda close. Just mindlessly moving their thumb up and down, taking…

> Ask a tik tok user to tell you even 10% of the videos they saw within the last hour. I'd be surprised if they could. Heck you could ask the same for any HN user as well :) Yes this is social media. Yes some of it is mindless time wasting. For me personally I sometimes get useful information that helps improve my work / profession. At least that’s how I justify it.

of course you compare HN somewhat in jest (I think), but HN is also generally long-form content that doesn't just slip in and out of your head in 15 seconds. additionally I remember it better because it's written down

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by dreamcompiler »

baud147258 wrote: post #386
dreamcompiler wrote: post #264

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> Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers. You and I aren't Facebook's users; we are the ore Facebook has been mining at a cost approaching zero for over a decade and selling at a huge markup to its actual customers. But now the mine is playing out. We no longer cost Facebook zero to mine and the advertisers are beginning to realize t…

> nobody under 30 uses FB any more. well, aren't older eyeballs more valuable anyway? Like more disposable income, maybe more free time for those retired? The mine might be empty some day in the future, but it doesn't seem to be the case right now

I'm no advertising expert but IIRC marketers tend to like the younger demographic because even though older folks have more money they also are wise enough not to spend it on stupid shit they don't need.

Unless you're selling a new kind of golf putter or a very expensive prescription medicine for high blood pressure. Then you want the oldsters.

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Post by soylentgraham »

kinghtown wrote: post #373
xwowsersx wrote: post #257

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Not everything we desire is good for us. Also, there is a need? How so?

I used to be a DJ for a few years and Facebook was useful for organizing and promoting my parties. I’m not interested in getting into a semantic debate if such a need is necessary or good for society, but it was useful for me and many people did want to go to my parties. This is a modest example. Also, people are artists or learning. It’s nice to have a simple and organized way to save your public work online to shar…

Events and parties (organising and discovery) were something no platform ever got close to being good at. Facebook completely nailed it, probably purely through the social connections. It's still maybe the number 1 thing everyone i know agrees is a big loss, and nothing has come close to taking its place as we're so dispersed again

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Post by mst »

pjmlp wrote: post #290
encryptluks2 wrote: post #280

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I doubt it. Facebook may have issues but they aren't going to disappear anytime soon.

Some of us are old enough to have been through Hi5 and MySpace....

Yeah. I'm "remembers netgoth.org.uk IRC regularly having to add 'yes, livejournal is down' to /topic" years old.

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Post by Deukhoofd »

jackdh wrote: post #353
alx__ wrote: post #345

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For me, a large majority of my friend/family updates come through group chats. I have 4 large (10+) groups that are friend groupings from different interest areas. Which use iMessage/WhatsApp/Signal 1 huge one for a group of concert/rave friends on Signal 3 overlapping groups of various family-relatives using iMessage/WhatsApp I don't even need to open FB/IG anymore. Bye Felica

Until they start to require Facebook to log into WhatsApp..

Which is something the EU effectively banned last week, in the Digital Markets Act.

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Post by birksherty »

kinghtown wrote: post #373
xwowsersx wrote: post #257

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Not everything we desire is good for us. Also, there is a need? How so?

I used to be a DJ for a few years and Facebook was useful for organizing and promoting my parties. I’m not interested in getting into a semantic debate if such a need is necessary or good for society, but it was useful for me and many people did want to go to my parties. This is a modest example. Also, people are artists or learning. It’s nice to have a simple and organized way to save your public work online to shar…

> simple and organized way to save your public work online to share with friends

I think Instagram still works for that. You can also do that by having a blog.

But if anyone needs more than that, it's addiction generated by fb, the red notification, likes, followers, desire to open the app, desire to know what others are doing, gossip, all this kind if things. Fb was pretty effective to create this desire and it permanently changed how we function mentally.

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Post by fsflover »

xwdv wrote: post #74

It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

> There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing.

How about Mastodon? You can even set up your own server if you want, exclusively for your friends and relatives.

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Post by oynqr »

guilamu wrote: post #357
jackdh wrote: post #353

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Until they start to require Facebook to log into WhatsApp..

Then just leave for Telegram which is infinetly better (their native windows client is just incredible compared to the other atrocious electron based chat apps) or even better for Signal which is not as feature rich yet but open source.

Telegram doesn't do e2ee by default, no thanks.

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Post by mikaeluman »

The "discovery" setups of increasingly all social media platforms is a big turn off for my use case of actually being social with my friends when we are away from each other.

In instagram the only redeeming feature left is the "story" buttons at the top. I stopped using Facebook long ago, though I still use messenger.

I also use Slack and WhatsApp to communicate, basically SMS texting but in groups.

Whatever the "social" platforms now are, they are very off putting to say the least. Maybe good for killing time writing for the bus? A reversion back to cute cat and dog videos.

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