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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by thex10 »

xwdv wrote: post #74

It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

> There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing.

IMO it’s pointless to “passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing”. We should either actively keep up (thus actually maintain the relationship), or let it go~

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by CAPSLOCKSSTUCK »

kazinator wrote: post #51
next_xibalba wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Wouldn't a consequence of this be that Facebook would be losing users in drovers? And yet the data seem to disagree. This is a type of take that feels very "inside baseball" and fueled more by the feelings of its proponents than any kind of empiricism.

Users who believe they can get something out of Facebook that speaks to their vanities or insecurities will ignore being disrespected or not cared about by the platform. Moreover, many of those users will accept the terms because their use of the platform is free. Some users might be consciously aware of the fact that the disrespect and lack of caring is mutual, and accept it that way. "Facebook doesn't respect me or…

This.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

> Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess

I was immediately reminded of Mozilla when I read this.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by webo »

annexrichmond wrote: post #134

Somewhat unrelated, but the other day I was trying to see which of my friends still live in the city I used to live in, as I was about to visit. I could not find a way to filter friends by current city. Seems like such an obvious feature meant for a side supposedly about connecting you with friends. Guess it wouldn’t move the right KPIs.

This seems obvious to the younger generation but “my friends who live in X” works just fine on Facebook. I know the older (my) generation is used to more filters but google/fb/ig/tt handle context-free queries fine by default.

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Post by SoftTalker »

anothernewdude wrote: post #42
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

I'm already there for McDonalds. No idea how to order what I want from those machines.

They are a complete disaster. Unusable.

Pro tip, you will get better service in the Drive-Thru. The large majority of their sales come from there, and they prioritize filling drive thru orders to keep the line moving.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by beambot »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Irony. McDonald's was instrumental in creating Chipotle -- literally making burritos & tacos. Not at all dissimilar from Facebook & Instagram.

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Post by echelon »

prawn wrote: post #214
xwdv wrote: post #74

It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

It's been an interesting path. It went from the early days where you'd post just about anything, then people tightened up on what felt "good enough" and some of the charm was lost. I got the sense that people became more anxious about what reached that "good enough" mark. A friend who was making a living from putting up Instagram content just abruptly started turning down money and stopped posting. No one should be f…

> No one should be fretting about sharing content because they worry about how their grid looks - it's idiotic.

Pre-social media, nobody shared pictures of food.

I don't think we're self-censoring, I think we're returning to normal.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Beldin »

threeseed wrote: post #89
maxfurman wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just posted their first net user loss - so maybe not "in droves" but their username is certainly declining and will continue to do so without drastic change

> but their username is certainly declining You can't make any claims about Facebook's position based on a single quarter's result. Especially given we are in the most tumultuous period in the last few decades.

The 80s covered the end of the cold war, the fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the Iron curtain, so surely you're not including that decade.

The 90s covered the fall and breakup of one of two world powers, and had a gulf war and the breakup/war in Yugoslavia, so that's similarly rules out.

The 00s covered terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and London, changing air travel worldwide, starting wars and inspiring more terrorism (Madrid, Mumbay). Oh, and a financial meltdown compared to the Great Depression. So that's probably also not in your "last few decades".

That leaves the 2010s, which cover (amongst others) the start of the corona pandemic. I guess you're including that event in your "recent decades".

Plenty omitted from the above, such as famines and wars in Africa, news from Latin-America, "where's my vote" in Iran, the Arab Spring, Rohinga & Myanmar, ...; in short: we've been in a couple of tumultuous decades for a while now.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by SoftTalker »

xwdv wrote: post #102
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Is this something that people really want to do though... I did that for a bit back when fb was still new but quickly and I mean quickly fell off the habit and stopped using fb.

Yes, otherwise it’s basically back to the dark age where I have no idea what other people are doing because I have no close friends.

Then get off the computer and go makes some friends.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by SkyMarshal »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

TBH this is also exactly what Google tried to do with Google+ back in the day. Facebook was a new model that provided online folks with a new and more personal experience, which scared Google management, so they tried to pivot the whole company to become a social network, including forcing their users to abandon their pseudonyms and reveal their irl identity, despite the original implicit social contract allowing pseudonyms. It was idiotic. You would think Facebook would have learned from their primary competitor's (at the time) mistake.
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