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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by yieldcrv »

aquova wrote: post #147

I'll admit that I deleted my Facebook account years ago, and thus haven't seen what this redesign looks like, but this sounds like a baffling move. Facebook has been less and less popular with the younger crowd; and is now mainly associated as a place for older generations, who like use it primarily as a way to keep track of friends and family and secondarily as a way to see the news. I can't see the "Tiktok-ificatio…

Fortunately itll still be neighbors and adults posting, just like TikTok is now

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

"TikTok and Facebook's antics (existence?) have me seriously considering quitting tech. I feel like no matter what I do, I am feeding one of these societal cancers by implementing tracking for whoever is paying me currently, lifting dark patterns, etc, using the API of Google... I tried to avoid doing these things for awhile but nobody pays me to be ethical.

My only marketable skill is software development and I pretty much hate what it has become. 16 years down the drain."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32233969

I remember being disappointed that an early iPhone I bought came with some Facebook preset/integration pre-installed.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by bathtub365 »

What’s up with the format and writing style of this article? Bulleted lists are used to make points rather than list things, and the first few words of some paragraphs are bolded. Is this a new style of writing that their algorithm shows them is effective?

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by andyferris »

chitowneats wrote: post #103
tomlin wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You all need to get out of Silicon Valley. Creole languages, such as Jamaican are not only completely normal and exist, it's actually not antiquated if you look outside of the US. I do think you need to read more about this. You seem hung up on a singular meaning, which to me says a lot more about you than me. In this context, unless you're going to be obnoxiously pandentic, creole simply means "a bunch of words and…

Yeah, and you used it in a way that made it sound derogatory. "Creole bullshit" I expect the Yankees and the city folk to do this unintentionally, but not one of our own. I have never lived in Silicon Valley. My parents are from N'awlins (New Orleans, Louisiana).

What was said is it sounds like bullshit spouted by investors in a pidgin language they made up. Derogatory intent seems doubtful.

TIL creole can be a trigger word. I've only heard it used as "a creole language" and have never even heard anyone use the word relating to its original meaning (though I was vaguely aware of it). Personally, I'm more likely to use the word "creole" than "pidgin language", not sure about others though.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by yieldcrv »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Well yes

But Facebook is trying to get new users

Correct about the fairy tale of endless growth

But they just need to convince shareholders for a couple quarters so a couple employees don’t get collateral called on shares they borrowed against and the corporation can dilute more shares issued on behalf of the same employees

And its going to work, long enough

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by alexashka »

justusthane wrote: post #85
rascul wrote: post #64

Facebook will die with what is currently the older generation. They're addicted, and while they're still around, Facebook will survive. Nobody else seems to care so much about Facebook anymore.

I think this suggests that isn’t the case. Facebook knows they can’t survive long term with that strategy and they aren’t happy stagnating, so they’re making changes to try to attract younger users. Except they’re going to fail to do that while also driving away their existing users.

Facebook can not only survive, but thrive if it fires 95% of it's employees and goes git checkout facebook from 5-10 years ago.

That's all it has to do to be a great, profitable, thriving business.

But that's not what 95% of the employees at facebook want, for obvious reasons :)

It's that classic tragedy of the commons - what a business school/marketing/advertising graduate wants is always at odds with what's good for the rest of society.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by stevenjgarner »

owlninja wrote: post #136
grog454 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People were on facebook for the features facebook had. People were on Facebook for the people that were on Facebook.

Anecdotally I quit Facebook in 2016 but of my friends and family that still use it, I would say most simply use it for marketplace. They may still view the updates that people still post to see what's going on but it doesn't seem to be near as about keeping in touch (I'm in the US).

For those of us in families that are spread over the globe in a dozen time zones and separated in different countries, what other methods of connection even come close to social media? Facebook (and the rest) have provided a way for us to vicariously experience glimpses into each other's lives and in many cases reconnect with people who we never would have otherwise.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Barrin92 »

I always thought Facebook sat at a very awkward, uncanny-valley type position on the social media spectrum. On the one hand it doesn't feel (or is) private or personal. The feed mechanic doesn't really make for great conversations and everything is half public, the line between friends and other people isn't that clear, and so on.

Chat platforms like Telegram/Discord/Whatsapp and TikTok clearly lean into one direction (albeit on opposite ends of the spectrum). TikTok tends to be a mile wide and an inch deep but at least it leverages what the internet is good at, and chat apps do the reverse.

I think that bifurcation is just happening in general, not just on social media apps. There's more interest in private spaces as well as mass popular culture but the middle-ground isn't that appealing any more.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by brynjolf »

threeseed wrote: post #97
groffee wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is dying, but not because of TikTok. Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. It doesn't help that their core code is a steaming pile of bloated dung that doesn't seem to be tested by anyone…

> Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook a) No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless. b) No evidence that staying true to the original Facebook is the best strategy. Unquestionably, Stories has been a popular feature in both Instagram and Facebook ecosystems and perhaps certain features from TikTok will be the same. But there is plenty of evide…

Did you reply to wrong comment? Did you just have a Google alert for Facebook dying?

My point is you should dispute the original claim that it is life or death for Facebook instead of the subcomment running with that theory.

I think Facebook is doing OK, but they have issues breaching the younger democratic, which is worrying them.

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