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Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Facebook hasn't actually showed me a timeline of what my family and friends have posted in YEARS.

I stopped using FB years ago because of this. I've also stopped using instagram on the last couple of years for the same reason. I'm constantly being shown recommended posts from either random people or ads rather than a basic linear timeline of people I actually give a fuck about.

FB can go die in a fire.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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post #73

What's going on with Facebook product management? It's shocking to see core products deteriorate, others barely every improve (where's instagram and whatsapp for iPad?), while competitors (these days tiktok, before Snap) are merely imitated years later. Actually kind of sad to see considering I'm a big fan of Social and 'Meta' has been on the forefront for years. I hope they find a way to rethink this.

> What's going on with Facebook product management?

The culture of Facebook is to drive metrics so they're doing their job just fine according to this.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Sounds awful, but it could be worse. At least the Facebook-managed McDonald's is trying to chase after what most people seem to want. A Google-managed McDonald's would just shut down, even though everyone loves McDonald's, because somebody at Google figured starting a new fast food chain is the best path to a promotion.

I don't think it's what people want, per se. I think it's what some metrics say people want. Might be good for "engagement", but bad for retention in the long term. People were on facebook for the features facebook had.

> People were on facebook for the features facebook had.

People were on Facebook for the people that were on Facebook.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

> There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Is this something that people really want to do though... I did that for a bit back when fb was still new but quickly and I mean quickly fell off the habit and stopped using fb.

Just as myself and most of my friends and acquaintances all started using FB because we’d all started using it, we also all stopped using it because we’d all stopped using it.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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I know it sounds dumb but its hard to say we haven't moved closer to what only ~10 years ago we considered a "playful exaggeration" on the worst of humans and social media. In WallE, everyone is floating around in chairs having their content spoon-fed to them with a generous amount of ads mixed in. If you've ever scrolled or seen someone scroll, its kinda close. Just mindlessly moving their thumb up and down, taking…

> Ask a tik tok user to tell you even 10% of the videos they saw within the last hour. I'd be surprised if they could. Heck you could ask the same for any HN user as well :) Yes this is social media. Yes some of it is mindless time wasting. For me personally I sometimes get useful information that helps improve my work / profession. At least that’s how I justify it.

> Heck you could ask the same for any HN user as well

I remember reading some article about the sunset of social media and TikTok and Facebook and stuff.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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When I started using Facebook it wasn't a newsfeed, it was just a personal homepage with a photo album and a bulletin board attached. I'd love to have something like that again that everyone uses, but everything is about goosing the influencer economy now rather than letting me socialize.

It almost sounds as if there is a niche for that! BTW have you tried dreamwidth.org, a fork of the venerable livejournal.com? They look as if 2005 had never ended,in a good sense.

There isn't. Many companies e.g. Path, Google have tried and failed to build a social network that focused on more personal relationships.

They simply don't offer enough value over say a WhatApp group.

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Creole, such as Jamaican, are languages that exist - and discounting them is the actual racism. This post isn't even about race, or even a group of people. Take a rest. You realize I was calling the practice of ignoring facts and bullshitting people "bullshit", right? How is this hard to follow? Next time instead of reacting, try humanity. Creole languages aren't even predominantly non-white. Feels like projection of…

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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

#119

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Didn't Facebook already die years back? People moved onto Instagram, Whatsapp, Snap and a few other places already. The only reason Facebook was able to pull along was because it bought Insta and Whatsapp so they did not have to compete. But that now that they have to actually compete, the cracks are showing.

Tons still use Marketplace, Groups, etc. Especially in non-Western countries as well as older (40+) people.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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It almost sounds as if there is a niche for that! BTW have you tried dreamwidth.org, a fork of the venerable livejournal.com? They look as if 2005 had never ended,in a good sense.

There isn't. Many companies e.g. Path, Google have tried and failed to build a social network that focused on more personal relationships. They simply don't offer enough value over say a WhatApp group.

I think they wanted hockey-stick growth and prospects of a big payout, while the sustainable model may be a lifestyle business that barely pays for itself.
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