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Henry Ford is dead.
Says that in the article I linked you to.
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This fucking exactly. I'm fucking over it. If I "own" the device - legally I should own a key to EVERY fucking lock inside it. Digital or physical. This attitude that it's acceptable to put a little green man inside of something you sell, and then retain control over that sold item using your little green man is insidious and immoral. I want it fucking banned yesterday, and it's rapidly becoming one of my strongest p…
Within reason, sure - but there are limits. End user control over safety critical software is not only dangerous, but a potential source of significant legal liability. I don't want an EV that's capable of accelerating at the maximum rate supported by the motors.
So the way I'm reading the post is Tesla swapped out a battery pack for a 60 with a 90 and enabled the 90. Tesla, years later, discovers that even though the hardware for a 90 was installed it should have been software limited to be a 60. (I'm assuming that Tesla only made the owner pay the cost of the 60 battery swap even though they replaced it with a 90). They go and "fix the glitch" and set it back to the 60. Sin…
>It says 90, badged 90, has 90-type range. Tweet author said it's badged 90
I’m not saying Tesla are in the right overall, but the question of the badge appears to be one of misrepresentation by a previous owner.
If more companies keep doing these sorts of things, like making you pay a monthly fee to access hardware that is already in the car, I will just have to buy an old VW Beetle or Bus and convert them to EV.
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The batteries weigh different amounts so it isn’t just software locking at the factory. https://themotordigest.com/how-much-do-tesla-batteries-weigh... It’s more likely they didn’t have a 60kWh battery at the time pack to do the replacement. Which brings up an interesting point, a 90kWh battery software locked to 60kWh is a defective part as the added weight takes more energy to move around, has worse acceleration, m…
That might be a new change that happened in the past few years ago. But it certainly was the way Tesla made cars in 2019: https://insideevs.com/news/342746/more-on-the-return-of-tesl...
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This just makes it worse - it basically means that the only way to get adequate service for your car is to get lucky on social media. > Tesla is a big company by now. Probably a lot more people working there in Service Centers than in the core manufacturing & engineering. Hard to get everything right Sorry but if you don't have the capacity to attend to every single customer request, maybe don't fuck with their cars…
The customers probably want the software updates.
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FSD does transfer to next owner with any private sale. If you sell it to Tesla, they often remove FSD and resell without it; but that's no different than anyone else modifying a vehicle they own and then selling it in its new state.
There are documented cases of Tesla selling a pre-owned vehicle that was purchased with an optional feature, listing that optional feature in the sale ad, and then disabling the feature after the person they sold the car to has taken possession.
https://electrek.co/2020/02/07/tesla-takes-away-autopilot-us...
The tweets indicate it was "badged a 90". Seems odd/unlikely Tesla actually changed out the badging on a battery replacement, in which case someone else committed fraud.
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>> (I'm assuming that Tesla only made the owner pay the cost of the 60 battery swap even though they replaced it with a 90) It says right there that it was done under warranty. If my RTX3080 breaks, and Nvidia sends me a 3080Ti as a replacement(because maybe they don't have any 3080 in stock) then no, they can't lock it down to 3080 level 3 years later with a software update. And yes, I'm allowed to sell it on as a 3…
"because....that's what it is" I think this is the key problem here. Tesla is asserting the right to decide for the owner what the car "is". Kinda brings into question who the "owner" "is"...