Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

Post by easrng » Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 6:10 PM UTC

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #154

piokoch wrote: post #121

If anyone needs a good example of the: 1. click bait title 2. primitive advertisement, all in one place, this article is a great example. Was Gmail banned in Denmark schools? Obviously not, there is some regulation in one of the counties and it was about chromebook usage because of some privacy concerns. One. County. Article is written by a company which is a direct competitor of Gmail (they are email service too) an…

"nobody wants mediocre user interface" Is Gmail your idea of a good user interface? How many ordinaty people can setup filters to direct email from a prticular sender to a particular folder? Why can't I right click on an email and add it to a specific rule? "be unable to search emails" The mobile Gmail app fails at search, if my latest email has a word in it, typing in that word into searchbar returns nothing. I had…

Post by jabroni_salad » Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 6:21 PM UTC

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jabroni_salad wrote: post #176

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> so I think we've failed as an industry here Yeah, actually. Mail storage/search is not a solved problem. I recently trained an executive assistant to use ediscovery tools because the person she supports has too many mails to be indexed. Do yourself a favor and delete as much as possible before it all runs away from you. Stop using email as a system of record now or you will really wish you did later on. Sounds like…

but a bank statement is a legal document. Its counts as 'proof' for legal matters. If I take an email and save it to a file system, and delete ir from the mailbox, there is no evidence of anything.

Post by spookie » Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 7:36 PM UTC

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They can _choose_ to use whatever they want, as long as the school doesn't force them to use proprietary stuff. It is responsibility of the school system to create an ethical learning environment and not to promote proprietary service providers. Gmail probably doesn't finance schools in Denmark either, so even less of a reason for schools there to do no-cost promotion of Gmail. And that is just one example. Edit: Aft…

Email inboxes are one of the many services schools buy, it's not about any promotion and of course Google doesn't promote them, this is a service they provide for money, not some barter. This is like saying they promote a catering provider, furniture manufacturer or paper factory by buying from them... It's not like people aren't capable of using other email providers after using Gmail - email looks just the same reg…

Post by rattray » Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 7:39 PM UTC

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Pretty sure all the big players are working around that by hosting European things in their European data centers. But maybe the US government can pressure them to give that information up too in which case it would mean US companies that have or use private data shouldnt be allowed to operate in Europe

The CLOUD ACT was passed explicitly because Microsoft argued that data hosted on European servers was out of reach of the US government.

Post by rekrsiv » Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 7:42 PM UTC

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If it isn't, it should be. School is obligatory, we really shouldn't employ commercial products in schools to begin with. In Portugal, some years ago, kids were given computers with a Linux distro pre-installed for *free*, and LibreOffice was used as a word processor replacement. Argentina did the same thing, hell there were others too.

So no books then? Most of them are published commercially.