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Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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Post by lormayna »

jaclaz wrote: post #232
lormayna wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fratelli d'Italia (the party that is going to win the election and lead the next government) propose in his program to exit from EU, even if not explictly.

Ah, well, then they will propose it covertly? Like - say - let's remain in the EU for the moment, but let's deprive non-italain EU citizens of their fundamental right to establish their residence in Italy (or in any other EU country). https://ec.europa.eu/info/policies/justice-and-fundamental-r...

Look here: https://www.fratelli-italia.it/programma.pdf at point 2:

> Ridiscussione di tutti i trattati UE a partire dal fiscal compact e dall’euro.

This seems clear to me, it's just a nice way to say: we would like to exit from UE and Euro.

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Post by lormayna »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #223
lormayna wrote: post #214

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I am italian :) Do you remember the very first phase of yellow-green government? They had choose as economy minister one crazy old man that already had prepared a plan to exit from euro in one weekend. Luckily for us, the president Mattarella stopped it.

> They had choose as economy minister one crazy old man that already had prepared a plan to exit from euro in one weekend. Luckily for us, the president Mattarella stopped it. That "crazy old man" (Paolo Savona) is an economist, academic, previously minister for the economy and he is now the CONSOB president, so trust me he is not crazy, he has a better CV than both of us combined, it's just that you disagree and you…

M5S fan spotted.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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Post by isubasinghe »

aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #238
isubasinghe wrote: post #216

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If you had to quarantine because you traveled overseas and you broke the law by not doing so, that should have been enforced.

Those were the only people being dragged to quarantine camps? Are you sure about that?

Firstly your "quarantine camp" is actually a quarantine facility. These were setup because people wanted an alternative to hotel quarantine (because these were ineffective). This facility was for travelers not for random Australians.

We didn't have this facility in Victoria, it was only for NT. We had to quarantine at home. A lot of Victorians weren't happy about not having a similar facility because the hotel quarantine that Victoria had in place wasn't as effective. We would go to zero cases and then a some staff would get covid from the hotel and spread it.

We quarantined at home. My family got sick and guess what, they weren't "dragged off" by the Gestapo, they just stayed at home for 7 days.

Fox News isn't the best source of information fyi.

Regardless, Australia is a democracy (I am not sure if you knew this), if these were unpopular, the parties involved will be voted out. Australia has preferential voting so there is no reason why an anti lockdown party couldn't win.

I can't be arsed explaining this, look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/r9zznn/whats_...

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Post by [deleted] »

atmosx wrote: post #239
ultim8k wrote: post #236

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I agree with you about food and quality of life. Not so sure about the tax rates. Are you sure that 22% is all you pay? I'd be very surprised if this is with the Greek tax system. Disclaimer: I'm from Chania and live in London the last 5 years and considering the possibility of working remotely.

Hello, Disclaimer: IANAA, please consult a professional. I can hook you up if you want, with someone who knows these things much better than me (drop a PM via twitter, we're following each other apparently) tl;dr: Business income generated by partnerships (OE and EE) that maintain single entry accounting books is taxed at a unified tax rate of 22%. In addition, any subsequent distribution of profits is not subject to…

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Post by chefkoch »

enviclash wrote: post #164
chefkoch wrote: post #158

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Sure, there is a open drug scene in parks in Berlin, but there is no such thing in Stuttgart or Munich. Historically the germans travelled to Holland to buy their drugs and it's still the main drug distribution hub in europe.

I struggle to understand how come Dutch people allow such levels of drug production in ther soil.

One point is that Rotterdam is one the major ports in the world, also the wealth has always come from internal trade. Great infrastructure, near to the bigger consumer countries and also not so densly populated rural areas where you can hide labs.

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Post by badpun »

bartminton wrote: post #27
Matthias247 wrote: post #23

Having moved from germany to canada (Vancouver BC) in 2017, I can tell you that "quality of life" is highly subjective, and a lot of things in germany work far better than it seems - but you will only notice it if you have anything to compare against. E.g. [online] shopping and stock availability is so much better in germany, and you only notice what a privilege it is to get everything you need in 1 day once it's tak…

You touch a number of very important points here. Thanks for that. We're aware of the fact, that the overall situation in many countries in the world is much, much worse. So it's kind of a luxury problem. What is actually a challenge, is that I work as a freelancer for 20 years now and still have to go a long way to secure my private pension. I once calculated my personal "real" tax rate in Germany, and ended up at a…

More relaxed than Germany? I always thought it's one of the most relaxed country in the world. Rich, well-run, with excellent safety nets, great worker rights etc.

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Post by badpun »

bartminton wrote: post #133
jbotz wrote: post #81

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Because of global warming? Then I'd like to point out that the biggest changes in climate have been in the arctic and temperate regions so far, and that's likely to continue for some time. Yes, of course places that are already hotter are closer to becoming unlivably hot, but there are quite a few of places in the tropics that really aren't that hot; for one thing temperatures are more stable around the year. I live…

That's my thinking. What we witnessed over the last 30 years are more and more local maxima and extremes in regions, which typically have very mild weather. I spent significant amounts of time in a number of countries near the equator and do not recall such changes as we currently witness in Europe. But given the fact, that I have absolutely no expertise in the field, I might be totally wrong.

You can look up various predictions. Depending on which scenarios come true, large parts of Earth around the equator can become simply unlivable (i.e. worse than Persian Gulf countries now, where life outside of air conditioned buildings and vehicles hardly exists) during our lifetime.

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Post by badpun »

pestatije wrote: post #207

> 30 year low You actually want to retire in Germany AND THEN move wherever. You are too invested in a single country and its benefits system to give it away just a few years before they are due

Most countries still pay out partial pensions if you live there for a number of years and reach their retirement age after moving to some other place.
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