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How concretely-grounded are these privacy concerns? I know we all love to hate Google, but my impression is they take the privacy of email extremely seriously at this point (eg, no longer using it for ads). Sure, I don't trust Google that much and I know others trust their brand even less, but is there hard evidence of misuse of Gmail user data?
I've been thinking of ditching Gmail for myself and my business, but what true alternatives are there? I already have O365, but am not particular keen on using Exchange. I'm basically only using Gmail and Calendar. Any e-mail providers based out of the EU, worth mentioning?
Like, if I ditched MS 365, I would have to find alternatives for:
- Exchange (Email)
- Azure AD (Directory Service with SSO integration)
- SharePoint/ OneDrive (shared / personal file server)
- Teams (chat / conferencing)
- Intune (MDM)
For about 20 USD/user/month* .That's just the surface, I'm definitely forgetting about many other features. M365 is just too good for small business.
And even then, I would have to pay for some O365 subscriptions as many of my users rely heavily in Excel.
*That can be made cheaper by buying through a MS partner + yearly commitments.
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I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.
Should we teach kids to use TikTok and Facebook so they will be better prepared to help with future office marketing tasks too? This line of thinking is poison and will only amplify the monopolisic power of whatever select companies make the taught-in-schools list. Proprietary technology has no place in educational institutions.
"Office proficiency" is a useful thing to have, and while it is taken for granted by the older generations, it is being a challenge for people joining the workforce now (it's an actual issue, hiring managers are having trouble with this)
As in: people can't write a simple text, set a phrase in bold, set the title with a different font size, etc. Or how to do some basic spreadsheet with simple calculations
Its not true. I only have a correct source in danish: https://www.berlingske.dk/samfund/et-centralt-vaerktoej-for-... But only one local county have been forbidden from processing personal data on school chromebooks as they did not do any analysis of the consequences.
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No, you only need Facebook and TikTok in very few office jobs (and there probably other interfaces than users typically use). Excel is present in pretty much all office jobs. Maybe not all programmer jobs, but apart from some backend coders I haven't seen many people who never had to work with Word or Excel.
Teach them LibreOffice. Or better yet, teach them how to learn themselves.
The hard thing is to find the book (with the information you want) and not reading the book itself (that was before google/inet)
I'm under the impression that we (Denmark) are pretty random in what we think is important about privacy and IT security.. These ideas were probably strongly influenced by lobbyists from the main IT service providers, which are privately owned, and yet runs a large amount of out infrastructure. It'd be very much in their interest to have the goverment order some bespoke, insanely complicated/delayed/expensive system…
What is your evidence for that? It could be any privacy-conscious individual which have raised the issue to Datatilsynet. Believe it or nor, some people actually care about the safety of their kids' private information.
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I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.
Should school really be for job training though? Certainly knowing how to use word processors and spreadsheets is a useful general computing skill, but there's no reason it needs to be MS-specific.
For all those people suggesting OSS alternatives, it is difficult. Finding talent (yes, the govt jobs do not pay like private) to install, run, maintain suite of office-based is close to impossible. They tried at our school - as the board tried to ban Teams while they chat in WhatsApp or zoom meetings. We tried SoGo (OSS) calendar - it just sucks. Sync does not happen. The solution always is to restart phone or try later.
These may work for individuals. Not for organisations unless huge number of talent moves to OSS type organisations (tutanota or etc).
How concretely-grounded are these privacy concerns? I know we all love to hate Google, but my impression is they take the privacy of email extremely seriously at this point (eg, no longer using it for ads). Sure, I don't trust Google that much and I know others trust their brand even less, but is there hard evidence of misuse of Gmail user data?
> is there hard evidence of misuse of Gmail user data? Yes, the Snowden leaks. It doesn't matter whether Google themselves takes privacy seriously, they are a US company and therefor when handling personal information we must always assume that everything that is uploaded to their servers is sent straight to the NSA as well. Because that's what US law allows for. I'm not even exaggerating, according to the latest rul…