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Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.

Plenty of open source options that will teach them 90% of what most people will need to know. Taxpayer money should not be going to these corporations.

Nothing really compares to Excel.

(Nothing really compares to Excel in some of its most terrible bugs either).

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Having until August 3 to entirely complete the transition seems incredibly rough? How can that possibly be a reasonable situation? I'm absolutely all for privacy, but I also wonder if the EU alternatives (e.g. Tutanota as per article) will be able to withstand e.g. state sponsored attacks as well as Google.

These blog articles from companies that tries to sell alternatives for American cloud services should be taken with a grain of salt. They always make things sound more urgent and at larger scale than it really is.

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Now let's ban MSFT Office365 too. It's of zero use to teach whatever to the kids.

I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.

Should school really be for job training though? Certainly knowing how to use word processors and spreadsheets is a useful general computing skill, but there's no reason it needs to be MS-specific.

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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I've been thinking of ditching Gmail for myself and my business, but what true alternatives are there? I already have O365, but am not particular keen on using Exchange. I'm basically only using Gmail and Calendar. Any e-mail providers based out of the EU, worth mentioning?

Fastmail is great and has been great for many years.

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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I've been thinking of ditching Gmail for myself and my business, but what true alternatives are there? I already have O365, but am not particular keen on using Exchange. I'm basically only using Gmail and Calendar. Any e-mail providers based out of the EU, worth mentioning?

migadu

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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“Co” seems to be Google cloud services… is that just a translation issue?

The article expands: > Danish schools must stop using Google's email and cloud services In the first sentence of the first paragraph.

Yep that’s where I got the idea for what it meant.

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.

Plenty of open source options that will teach them 90% of what most people will need to know. Taxpayer money should not be going to these corporations.

Maybe what you need to know, but not how to use the programs. I was very anti Microsoft in my school days but had to learn Excel and Word in school. It helped me so much in my first job.

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Now let's ban MSFT Office365 too. It's of zero use to teach whatever to the kids.

I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.

Should we teach kids to use TikTok and Facebook so they will be better prepared to help with future office marketing tasks too?

This line of thinking is poison and will only amplify the monopolisic power of whatever select companies make the taught-in-schools list.

Proprietary technology has no place in educational institutions.

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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This is basically European protectionism under the guise of privacy. My guess is that within a few years (or even sooner), you will be reading about a massive breach of student data from whatever alternative they choose to go with.

Agree, I don’t understand how a non-judicial branch can attest that Google is not compliant. If they think so, they should sue. Otherwise it sounds as if a minister invested in a local alternative…

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Now let's ban MSFT Office365 too. It's of zero use to teach whatever to the kids.

I'd have to disagree here. Teaching kids how to use Word and Excel will help them for the majority of office jobs out there.

That's what I was always told growing up. But after 10 years of working office jobs at various companies, I've yet to have to use either.
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