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A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by dathinab »

saiya-jin wrote: post #344
daliusd wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s keep this generalisation to specific countries as this is not true for Baltic countries at all.

Well I heard conflicting info on this one from Baltic states citizens. On one side they are clearly working much more efficiently, as long term economy shows and align more with western approach to things and values. On the other side, every single person from there I've asked this specifically agreed their country is utterly corrupt mess, government after government, with tight coupling to big brother russia and maf…

> specifically agreed country is utterly corrupt mess, government after government, with tight coupling to .

Isn't that (citizens thinking that) the same for most countries in the world?

Like I'm pretty sure many US citizens would say the same.

Or UK citizens.

Or German citizens.

Or citizens.

Or Singapore, Australia, china, japan.

etc.

through they might mean different thing when they say "corrupted mess".

And yes, all the mentioned states are corrupt to different degrees in different way. But I think finding citizens which would describe their country as "corrupt mess" isn't a problem (except if they are afraid about repercussions).

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by baybal2 »

smsm42 wrote: post #184
swarnie wrote: post #174

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Wrong country, wrong establishment. Apparently a lot of you dont know the difference between USSR, Russia and Ukraine. Stay safe out there.

In fact, it's the same country and the same establishment. While Chernobyl is currently, as everybody knows, Ukrainian territory - at the time it was the territory of the USSR, and the dominating culture was Soviet - which despite being theoretically "internationalist" actually meant "Russian Imperial". People who made decisions there may have been born anywhere, but they all spoke Russian, and they all looked to Mos…

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by Intermernet »

cpursley wrote: post #378
DonHopkins wrote: post #376

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Are you suggesting that since Russia has a position on gays that you don't agree with, bigotry and hatred of Russia is justified?

Bigotry, no. Hatred, perhaps (it depends on how much it effects you personally). Criticism, certainly.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by amelius »

EUROCARE wrote: post #384
amelius wrote: post #369

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Well, as a company you can choose to do the right thing, or you can choose to weasel your way out of uncomfortable situations using lawyers and the fact that the law is always lagging behind technological development.

Musk has been talking about self driving cars for over a decade. Law has had enough time to catch up.

That is not the user's fault.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by benj111 »

88840-8855 wrote: post #254
benj111 wrote: post #239

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"moved a piece on the chessboard earlier than he should"?

Guess what, that's not blame, but en explanation of the bug.

Use of 'Should' suggests he shouldn't have. Which suggests he made the error rather than the robot.

At best you can read it neutrally. But you could also read it as blaming the child.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by mensetmanusman »

Ekaros wrote: post #299
drew-y wrote: post #149

This is appalling. There is no world in which an industrial robot like that should be operating next to a child. Their force sensors are not nearly sensitive enough to stop before causing serious injury. Going fast enough, they can absolutely kill you. This just screams negligence to me. Cannot believe they tried to blame it on the child. There are robots, called Cobots, designed specifically for this type of environ…

Yes, and some countries even allow car sized robots to operate next to pedestrians. That level of carelessness is something I can't understand. Almost as if they want to explicitly kill people.

Those cars have an emergency stop. These robots did not.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by agumonkey »

smsm42 wrote: post #90

It's Russia we're talking about. In Russia, the default mode of answering any complaint is "it's your own fault, we're not responsible, go away". It's not only on the big political scene - it's everywhere, from a village grocery store to a national federation. If you admit any mistake and any responsibility for anything, you're an idiot and a "loch" (pronounced the same as Scottish lake, but means a person to be take…

That's what some people report from diplomatic ties with Russia. They explained the same thing about shame and power. Diplomacy and talk is weak, they only react to conflict and dominance based relationships.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Post by agumonkey »

gambiting wrote: post #387
pzduniak wrote: post #356

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Can't confirm as a Pole. Don't want to ask you to dox yourself through an argument, but I'd like to say that it's a lot better nowadays, with the only exception being the Catholic Church's wrongdoings in the countryside.

Maybe. Literally had a situation few weeks back when a waitress brought our meal to the table, dropped it all on the floor, and her first words within 5 seconds? "your child distracted me, what have you done" - a child that was strapped in a chair and commiting the grand crime of smiling at her. She calmed down shortly after and apologized, but her first instinct was to blame anyone but herself. Like yeah, maybe it's…

It's funny cause I've seen similar situation with people of wildly different social status. A big lawyer asking a court clerk for files. He grabbed them like a moron, folders all slipped and fell. We all saw it coming but assumed he wouldn't be so goofy. The young lady clerk still jumped to help him gather the files. His first word: You stacked them wrong you idiot. She smiled and he got away with being an impolite moron.

Now seeing a waitress act like this to a customer is even weirder :)

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