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Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

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Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#31

Post by swombat »

Udo wrote: post #30
Volpe wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite, It was pointed out it was a cited article, you called the author into question, and was shown the author is credible. The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\

As I said many times in this thread: I called the study's conclusions into question, not the author. > The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\ After fighting you guys for the last our without one single person agreeing with me, I'm inclined to say you're right. I should probably stop posting now. It wasn't my intention to upset anyone. I'm sorry.

Don't be sorry. You haven't hurt anyone's feelings (and if you have, they were too fragile to survive long on HN). It's fine to defend your arguments and later realise you're wrong. That doesn't make you a lesser person - on the contrary, you're someone who now knows one more thing. That's good. If HN can do that more often, that's good.

Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#32

Post by drumdance »

Udo wrote: post #30
Volpe wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite, It was pointed out it was a cited article, you called the author into question, and was shown the author is credible. The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\

As I said many times in this thread: I called the study's conclusions into question, not the author. > The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\ After fighting you guys for the last our without one single person agreeing with me, I'm inclined to say you're right. I should probably stop posting now. It wasn't my intention to upset anyone. I'm sorry.

> After fighting you guys...

Competitive much? :)

Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#33

Post by drumdance »

Udo wrote: post #23
greyish_water wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we just don't want to deal with salespeople but instead judge the product on our own without being harassed. It astonishes me that you're able to describe interactions with salespeople as being "harassed" yet can't understand how it could be construed as competitive. (Not that the study you're dismissing has anything to do with salespeople... You'd be better off attacking the tenuous and speculative suggestion…

> It astonishes me that you're able to describe interactions with salespeople as being "harassed" yet can't understand how it could be construed as competitive. You make it sound like I'm drooling into a cup. So the competitiveness hypothesis resonates with you personally? Don't just imply that I'm stupid, explain to me what the competition actually is, and why I am automatically triggered into participating just bec…

I think the point is that to be harassed is to be engaged in a competition - for autonomy, freedom, time to make up your mind on your own etc.

Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#34

Post by [deleted] »

swombat wrote: post #31
Udo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I said many times in this thread: I called the study's conclusions into question, not the author. > The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\ After fighting you guys for the last our without one single person agreeing with me, I'm inclined to say you're right. I should probably stop posting now. It wasn't my intention to upset anyone. I'm sorry.

Don't be sorry. You haven't hurt anyone's feelings (and if you have, they were too fragile to survive long on HN). It's fine to defend your arguments and later realise you're wrong. That doesn't make you a lesser person - on the contrary, you're someone who now knows one more thing. That's good. If HN can do that more often, that's good.

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Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#35

Post by Udo »

drumdance wrote: post #32
Udo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I said many times in this thread: I called the study's conclusions into question, not the author. > The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\ After fighting you guys for the last our without one single person agreeing with me, I'm inclined to say you're right. I should probably stop posting now. It wasn't my intention to upset anyone. I'm sorry.

> After fighting you guys... Competitive much? :)

No. That's why I quit this discussion.

Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#36

Post by pbhjpbhj »

Riverbed wrote: post #20

And there's even a reference in here to the HN topic of the day - swearing in front of an audience! > 2. Swearing can help influence an audience. Light swearing, that is. (Go overboard and lose all credibility.)

The example is saying "damn"! Is that really considered swearing?

Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#39

Post by abbasmehdi »

badclient wrote: post #2

Get people to agree with you first A slight twist to this: get people to say yes. My "success rate" (with approaching women) went up drastically when I changed the first words out of my mouth to " Can you hear me? ". I now ask this even when I know a woman doesn't have earphones on. Why does it work? I have a couple of guesses. It is a question that you can't help reply to. And inadvertently when you answer this ques…

Oh my God, you've just made "Can you hear me?" the most commonly used pick-up line in the south bay. ;)

Re: Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People

#40

Post by gujk »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #36
Riverbed wrote: post #20

And there's even a reference in here to the HN topic of the day - swearing in front of an audience! > 2. Swearing can help influence an audience. Light swearing, that is. (Go overboard and lose all credibility.)

The example is saying "damn"! Is that really considered swearing?

It is sad that we have lost the fine and colorful distinctions between swearing, blaspheming, cursing, and vulgarity.
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