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I regret my website redesign

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Re: I regret my website redesign

#42

In the same vein as companies "not wanting to be a company's biggest client" there's a reason for not being a company's smallest client as well, as this shows well.

What's the reason for "not wanting to be a company's biggest client" except maybe inexperience.

You end up hitting scaling issue the agency hasn't hit before, and they're learning on your dime. That scaling could be technical, but also organizational and procedural. Your org may be big enough to have specific legal/regulatory issues to contend with, but the agency has never dealt with those before, for example.

I understand people will almost always be 'learning' in some capacity on every project. "Hey, we're constantly learning! This is great!". I recognize it, but don't always think it's something to celebrate. You'll usually be better off working with an agency that's dealt with your size project/org before.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#44

I have seen many outsourcing projects with my coachees and with founders, I've managed my own and cancelled several when I was called in to fix them. The key to this kind of work is to understand: The agency is not your buddy, they have very different goals than you have. Too often do I seen people who have nice chats with the agency over a coffee. They are not your friends. You need to write the contract to align th…

Thanks for reading!

I have a different philosophy when it comes to hiring in that I assume the people working with me are honest and they're motivated to do their jobs well. I'm paying for their time, and I assume they'll use their time effectively. If they can't use their time effectively, I terminate the hire, but I don't try to fix it with different policies.

I agree that there are payment schemes that will cause even honest people to do poor work (e.g., if I paid someone per kLOC, they'd probably write more bloated code), but in general, I'm not worried about someone deliberately sandbagging a job if I'm paying them by the hour.

Paying by the hour is not perfect, but no payment scheme is. With milestone-based billing, you get into disputes about what is or isn't in scope, and I don't want to waste time on that. It also incentivizes delivering the minimum quality work to meet the milestone and move on rather than focusing on high quality.

Re: I regret my website redesign

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Author here. Happy to take any feedback or answer any questions about this post.

Why are you so nice? You got tricked. You got scammed. Whether it was through their excessive incompetence or their active malice. You should name and shame. The new design looks like a random free template. It‘s ok, at best. You are a victim here! Don‘t you see it?

+1 this is ridiculous and the author is complacent.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#46

This reminds me of when I worked for a B2C company in the healthcare space. We hired a freelance designer to redesign our checkout flow and we wanted it done in time for Black Friday, which was by far our biggest day of the year. Of course the project ran long and we crunched so that we could ship the redesign exactly on Black Friday. I think we shipped the Tuesday before (because Thanksgiving) and everything seemed…

I have a rule now that when designing a page, any "money screens" get at least 1.5X to 2X the estimate. I define a "money screen" as anything that leads a company to land a client or land a sale, things like checkout flows, signup flows, etc. Usually that extra time gets sucked up in A/B testing setup and setting up a staggered deployment per region that the biz operates.

Whenever customers push back I tell them the story of Knight Capital [1]. You pay extra for extra assurance that you won't loose a shit load of money in the future.

[1]: https://www.henricodolfing.com/2019/06/project-failure-case-...

Re: I regret my website redesign

#48
I think the sad thing is the contrary to some people's opinions, this is not limited to small "cowboy" companies, it can happen from the smallest to the biggest and it is a mixture of competence, management, desire for profits etc. as it is in most companies.

The biggest difficulty is that you are paying a premium for intangibles when you talk designs and branding. If you absolutely know that your current brand is useless then anything is better than nothing but also you probably don't have to do very much to get better before the returns are diminishing.

Otherwise for design work, although the result might look "OK", it is hard to see how they would justify the money, although of course they will just like Tropicana justified their failed redesign.

I would normally say that you have to know enough about something to pay somebody else to do it well but here the OP does seem to know roughly what is going on so it might just come back to a more formal kick-off process and not getting caught up in the excitement that you just start and worry about it later. Clearly this company could have done a good job so it is not about ability, just management and scoping it properly.

Re: I regret my website redesign

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If it sells, why do you need to stylize it when the style fad will change in two years? Cafe. Sriracha HOT chilly sauce.

Thanks for reading! I think design improvements can help even if styles change. For example, if you look at Apple's ads from 20-30 years ago[0], they look dated, but they're still better than what I'm capable of creating today with my limited design skills. [0] https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2020/01/09/photo-essay-apple-a...

Totally right but the real question is “do I really know that my branding is important or will provide noticeably more income”?

That does not seem to be your initial question…

Sorry, the “Cafe.” in my post should read “cf “ but it got autocorrected.

Re: I regret my website redesign

#50
If you hired a mechanic to regas your car's AC, and they give the car back with a full realignment, detailing, etc, all at prices you wouldn't have ever paid in the first place, you would be driving away without even thinking of paying, probably to the nearest ombudsman or law firm.

but at least that mechanic probably would have done the re-gassing first.

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