Surprised nobody is talking about what a huge bonanza this is for software piracy. Sure, it'll come with Lovecraft-grade eldritch horrors in the malware space, but that's the price you pay.
Software piracy is good.
EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
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#892Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> I know it’s likely the page works in Safari since iOS+Safari is a large customer group That until you find out some of the best web technologies are not working on safari(i.e indexeddb has been left unfixed for years on purpose by apple). I don't think people would like a safari only on desktop. Why would they want that on mobile?
Part of why I like Apple products is because they tend to have more apps made natively and well fitting into the ecosystem. I don't want web apps which use double the energy, don't look and feel like they were designed for iPhone/Mac. And I use Safari because it does everything it has to (display information) while using the least energy for it. I've yet to see any really good web app, no matter the browser or device…
>> I don't want web apps which use double the energy, don't look and feel like they were designed for iPhone/Mac.
Then don't use web apps. You can still use only native apps and safari just like people could (until recently) use win32 apps and internet explorer.
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Yeah, I'm honestly shocked at how welcomed the concept of "the government is telling developers that they must make their product less secure and streamlined" is here... This will not bring the interoperability utopia many believe, unless you mean 8 different app updaters bogging down your phone because now there's "competition" and the DrainMyBattery Store only charges 15% fees so it's the only place you can get Coo…
small price for an open ecosystem. honestly, Apple had their chance and while claiming to self-police, in fact they enacted an obvious walled garden that went way way way beyond security requirements.
What is this open ecosystem worth if it's not as good as the closed one we have now? The choice always was there as one can buy Android (and install some Open(TM)Rom) or any niche OS.
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#894What HackerNews thinks will happen: "zomg, I will finally be able to run Arch on my iPhone!" What will actually happen: "honey, something is wrong with my phone, whenever I unlock it, a popup jumps up that says 'Please update the Adobe™ Updater™ to get up to date Adobe™ Software Updates', could you take a look at it?"
It sounds like you don't understand what's actually in this regulation. There are some good summaries posted in this very comment thread.
Well, to sum it up Apple-wise, it's making iOS more like Android. I like iOS. I don't like Android. Short story..
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#895If I were Apple, I'd sell an open developer phone that allowed users to override the default settings. So that when the inevitable "Apple has been hacked and is no better than Android" media driven hit pieces come out, Apple can point out that this is happening on the open developer phone, not the safe walled garden that most of us normal, non bleeding edge consumers carry in our pockets.. When you just want to use y…
Apple has been hacked and is no better than Android.
Linux has been hacked and is no better when Windows?
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#896I actually think this is an awful decision, and will likely result in the erosion of the data/privacy guarantees Apple has established, for little to no benefit. “We’ll be able to side load apps” great. Good for you. I eagerly await the proliferation of trash app stores peddling all the apps that were rightfully rejected from the Apple Store for good reasons. “You’ll be able to iMessage android users” fantastic, now…
Apple has not established any meaningful privacy guarantees. It's just PR.
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Ah, so now nobody can ever launch any new messaging features without reaching a consensus in a standardization body. Progress!
Nope, that's not how standardization works. I'd refer you to the process of HTML/CSS/JavaScript if you want to see how it can work in a global manner that also works for innovation too (unless you'd argue that HTML/CSS/JavaScript is exactly the same in terms of "innovation" since they each first were created). In short, the process is something like this: 1) a browser implements a new feature they think is useful 2)…
Yeah, web is the best example…
In short, the process is something like this: 1) Chrome implements a new feature they think is useful 2) Google uses their people in the standard committees to push it into the standards 3a) it's actually useful: other Browsers implement it or 3b) it's basically useful to Google: they'll continue blaming other browsers to not implement standards, “This website works only in Chrome” incoming
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#898This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…
Interestingly enough, an iPhone that complies with these demands is actually the first iPhone I'd ever consider paying for. I wonder if this might actually increase adoption.
Ironically it might be the last iPhone I use, even though I believe very much in free-as-in-speech software on my devices.
This just bludgeons so much of the security model of the iPhone. I get that this is by Apple's design, in that conflating the security model of the iPhone with App Store lock-in has been a gold mine, but I just don't see how you provide the same malware guarantees without that enforcement.
EDIT: Not sure why the downvotes, I guess it's from people that are big free-software-at-any-cost advocates. The cost of doing this is going to be too high for most iPhone users - I very much doubt this is in their best interests overall.
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That's fine, just stay on the default settings then. This however isn't a reason for the rest of the world to accept this. And since the power in the market is highly concentrated and all of it is moving more and more in this direction, regulation enforces these alternative options now. All this does is regulate the power the provider of a product has over their customer. This does not ruin the walled garden for the…
That's fine, just stay on the default settings then. I agree in principle, but I worry that we end up in the situation where if you need to use a particular app, you can only get it from a third-party store that you don't trust. (Something gross like Facebook starting an app store.) Or course, this is mostly a result of Apple being greedy. If they had acted like a good steward of the platform rather than trying to ex…
This will immediately happen, and is the intent of the law.
Direct downloads from websites isn't far off - I wouldn't be surprised if we very rapidly get to a place of each-app-is-it's-own-store for the purposes of complying with the law so you can freely download apps from websites.
It'll be Windows all over again, with all that implies.