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Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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I have been having a blast with DALL-E, spending about an hour a day trying out wild combinations and cracking my friends up. I cannot imagine getting bored of it; it's like getting bored with visual stimulus, or art in general. In fact, I've been glad to have a 50/day limit, because it helps me contain my hyperfocus instincts. The information about new pricing is, to me as someone just enjoying making crazy imagines…

I think people don't realize how huge these models really are. When they're free, it's pretty cool. But charge an amount where there's actual profit in the product? Suddenly seems very expensive and not economically viable for a lot of use cases. We are still in the "you need a supercomputer" phase of these models for now. Something like DALLE mini is much more accessible but the results aren't good enough. Early ear…

> I think people don't realize how huge these models really are.

They really aren't that large by the contemporary scaling race standards. DALLE-2 has 3.5B parameters, which should fit on an old GPU like Nvidia RTX2080, especially if you optimize your model for inference [1][2] which is commonly done by ML engineers to minimize costs. With optimized model, your memory footprint is ~1 byte per parameter, and some less than 1 ratio (commonly ~0.2) of all parameters to store intermediate activations.

You should be able to run it on Apple M1/M2 with 16GB RAM via CoreML pretty fine, if an order of magnitude slower than on an A100.

Training isn't unreasonably costly as well: you can train a model given O(100k)$ which is less than a yearly salary of a mid-tier developer in silicon valley.

There is no reason these models shouldn't be trained cooperatively and run locally on our own machines. If someone is interested in cooperating with me on such a project, my email is in the profile.

1. https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.01861

2. https://pytorch.org/blog/introduction-to-quantization-on-pyt...

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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I have been having a blast with DALL-E, spending about an hour a day trying out wild combinations and cracking my friends up. I cannot imagine getting bored of it; it's like getting bored with visual stimulus, or art in general. In fact, I've been glad to have a 50/day limit, because it helps me contain my hyperfocus instincts. The information about new pricing is, to me as someone just enjoying making crazy imagines…

My heart sank when I saw the pricing model. I’ve been creating generative art since 2016 and I’ve been anxiously waiting for my invite. I wont be able to afford to generate the volume of images it takes to get good ones at this price point. I can afford $20/mo for something like this but I just can’t swing $200 to $300 it realistically takes to get interesting art out of these CLIP-centric models. Heck, the initial 5…

FYI, each text prompt submission uses 1 credit and then renders out 4 images.

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I fully expect stock image sites to be swamped by DALL-E generated images that match popular terms (e.g. "business person shaking hands"). Generate the image for $0.15. Sell it for $1.00.

DALLE images are still only 1024 px wide. Which has its uses, but I don’t think the stock photo industry is in real danger until someone figures out a better AI superresolution system that can produce larger and more detailed images.

DallE2 + Topaz Gigapixel AI works amazingly well.

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I was supposed to be making a video game, but got a bit sidetracked when DALL·E came out and made this website on the side: http://dailywrong.com/ (yes I should get SSL). It's like The Onion, but all the articles are made with GPT-3 and DALL·E. I start with an interesting DALL·E image, then describe it to GPT-3 and ask it for an Onion-like article on the topic. The results are surprisingly good.

These results are pretty amazing. Are these cherry picked / curated / edited at all?

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How do you interface with DALL-E? For MidJourney I was painfully surprised to find that everything is done through chat messages on a Discord server. I'm not a paid member, so I have to enter my prompts in public channels. It's extremely easy to lose your own prompts in the rapidly flowing stream of prompts going on. I can kind of see why they did it that way--maybe, if I squint really hard--to try to promote visibil…

You use a web app to interface with it. Agree going from DALL-E 2 to Midjourney is pretty painful. Hopefully Midjourney create a web UI for it like OpenAI/Craiyon.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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How's it NOT a problem? If I'm trying to produce "stock people images", and if it only gives me white men, it's clearly broken because when I ask for "people" I'm actually asking for "people". I'm having difficulty understanding how it can be considered to be working as intended, when it literally doesn't. Clearly, the software has substantial bias that gets in way of it accomplishing its task. If I want to produce "…

That is clearly overfitting due to unrepresentative training data. The "issue" is a different one: that training data - IE, reality, has _unwanted_ biases in it, because reality is biased. Producing images of men when prompting for "trash collecting workers" should not be much of a surprise: 99% of garbage collection/refuse is handled by men. I doubt most will consider this a "problem," because of one's own bias, nob…

> Asking DALLE for a group of criminals, likewise, produces a group of black men. Outage! Except statistically, this is not a surprise, as a disproportionate amount of criminals are black men.

"criminals" producing most black people actually would be a perfect example of bias in DALL-E that is arguably racism.

Black people commit a diproportionate amoumt of crime (for a variety of socioeconomic reasons I won't get into here), but even so white people make up a majority of criminals (because white people are the largest ethnic group by far).

Thus, a random group of criminals, if representive of reality, should be majority white.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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> If an artist has a well-known art style, and this algorithm was trained on it and can copy that style, would the artist have grounds to sue? I don't know. While nothing has been commercialized yet on the DALLE2 subreddit, I know that it can do Dave Choe's work remarkably well. I also saw Alex Gray's work to be close, but not really identical either. It wasn't as intricate as his work is. It will be interesting if t…

I'm going to guess there's not going to be much value placed on anything out of DALLE for a long while. Digital art is typically worth much less than physical art and I would say these GAN images are going to worth less than digital art generated by human hand. There will be outliers of course but I would be shocked if there's much of a market in it for at least the present.

I think the value will be in work produced that gets attached to things which are being sold. So, a book cover or an album cover. If a best selling novel used artwork from this system and it happened to be a very close copy of existing work, I could imagine the author of the original work suing for royalties.
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