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Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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I am thrilled about DALL-E, and the new terms of service. However, how they implemented the improved "diversity" is hilarious. Turns out that they randomly, silently modify your prompt text to append words like "black male" or "female". See https://twitter.com/jd_pressman/status/1549523790060605440 I don't know which emotion I feel more - applause at how glorious this hack is or tears at how ugly it is. Good luck to…

it's a hard problem. at least they tried.

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Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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post #37

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Previously, OpenAI asserted they owned the generated images, so the new licensing is a shift in that aspect. GPT-3 also has a "you own the content" clause as well. Of course, that clause won't deter a third party from filing a lawsuit against you if you commercialize a generated image too close to something realistic, as the copyrights of AI generated content still hasn't been legally tested.

AFAIK only people can own copyright (the monkey selfie case tested this), and machine-generated outputs don't count as creative work (you can't write an algorithm that generates every permutation of notes and claim you own every song[1]), so DALL-E-generated images are most likely copyright-free. I presume OpenAI only relies on terms of service to dictate what users are allowed to do, but they can't own the images, a…

DALL-E can generate recognizable pictures of Homer Simpson, Batman and other commercial properties. Such images could easily be considered derivative works of the original copyrighted images that were used as training input. I'm sure there are plenty of corporate IP lawyers ready to argue the point at court.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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post #84

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it's a hard problem. at least they tried.

It's not a "problem," it's an unwanted shard of reality piercing through an ideological guise.

How's it NOT a problem? If I'm trying to produce "stock people images", and if it only gives me white men, it's clearly broken because when I ask for "people" I'm actually asking for "people". I'm having difficulty understanding how it can be considered to be working as intended, when it literally doesn't. Clearly, the software has substantial bias that gets in way of it accomplishing its task.

If I want to produce "animal images" but it only produces images of black cats, do you think there is any question whether it's a problem or not?

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Previously, OpenAI asserted they owned the generated images, so the new licensing is a shift in that aspect. GPT-3 also has a "you own the content" clause as well. Of course, that clause won't deter a third party from filing a lawsuit against you if you commercialize a generated image too close to something realistic, as the copyrights of AI generated content still hasn't been legally tested.

Image generating artificial intelligence is very analogous to a camera. Both technologies have billions of dollars of R&D and tens of thousands of engineers behind supply chains necessary to create the button that a user has the press.

There have been decades of litigation around when/where/of whom you can take a photo. AI generated art isn't there.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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post #133

I am thrilled about DALL-E, and the new terms of service. However, how they implemented the improved "diversity" is hilarious. Turns out that they randomly, silently modify your prompt text to append words like "black male" or "female". See https://twitter.com/jd_pressman/status/1549523790060605440 I don't know which emotion I feel more - applause at how glorious this hack is or tears at how ugly it is. Good luck to…

Interesting. Considering this is now a paid product, is modifying user input covered by their ToS? If I was spending a lot of money on it I'd be rather annoyed my input was being silently polluted.

Don't spend money. Use https://www.craiyon.com

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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post #84

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it's a hard problem. at least they tried.

It's not a "problem," it's an unwanted shard of reality piercing through an ideological guise.

Everything is an ideological war zone now. That's the world we live in now.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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post #13
post #6

That's about 10x as expensive as it should be

$0.13/prompt can only be useful for artists/end users. Anyone thinking about using this at scale would need a 20/30x reduction in price. But there's still no API available so I think that will change with time. Maybe they will add different tiers based on volume.

Thing is, as a current user: you rarely get it right in the first prompt, you can iterate 10 times until you get what you want.

I spent several tries yesterday to get this angle "from the ground up": https://labs.openai.com/s/mz8LiyvkI8KwD2luJ6MrS23m

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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post #114
post #84

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it's a hard problem. at least they tried.

While their heart is in the right place, I'd like to challenge the idea that certain groups are so fragile that they don't understand that historically, there are more pictures of certain groups doing certain things. It's a hard problem for sure. But remember, the bias ends with the user using the tool. If I want a black scientist, I can just say "black scientist". Let me be mindful of the bias, until we have a gener…

Historically this is true, but it also seems dangerous to load up these algorithms with pure history because they'll essentially codify and perpetuate historical problems.
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