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Then you missed the biggest advantage of remote only: they can hire from any market.
It’s kinda funny everyone here arguing they should be paid the same regardless of location - but then complaining when the reality of that wish is not what they’d imagined.
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Ah, so exactly the same model like the sweatshops in Asia. Pay just good enough that they can't afford to not do the job. Very generous.
Nice but wrong. Sweatshops pay like shit. I am talking about good Pay in your area (greater than average cost of living). Apples and Oranges.
Like Gitlab then?
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Because you're paying me for my skills and expertise, not for where I live.
This is likely correct in the long run and it means software engineering compensation will be dropping significantly in the next decade.
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It’s kinda funny everyone here arguing they should be paid the same regardless of location - but then complaining when the reality of that wish is not what they’d imagined.
yes, very silly that people desire equally well paid jobs regardless of location. how very silly of them.
Still paying according to location for the same work?
What I don't get is: why would they pay more for someone from San Francisco? I'd expect the incentive to be to indeed pay the same for the same work, but that pay would be the lowest they can get away with. (i.e. I wouldn't expect that to lead to Silicon Valley salaries all over the world.) Unless it's not actually the same work, and location affects work. It does at least affect gross pay in any case, I suppose.
I can't answer for GitLab, but widely, people often believe that San Francisco has an "exceptional" talent pool and that companies pay a premium for that because of competition.
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I saw a list of companies that paid the same regardless of location. There were even a few bay area companies that didn't cut your pay when you moved away, I wish I had that handy.
Can you name a few who will pay a Senior Software Engineer the same salary in Bay Area vs say Bangalore, India ? I am curious.
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You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?
Because you're paying me for my skills and expertise, not for where I live.
My favorite part of their story is how they changed the interview process to not be terrible and built a dashboard to quantify it: https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/03/19/the-trouble-with-te...
I spent many years working at companies where I was underpaid relative to peers who went to the office, but I got paid the same whether I was currently residing in Prague, Santiago, or Kansas City, and that was a much fairer trade-off than getting pay-cut if you relocate to a lower cost of living area, and I have no doubt that the reverse is not true (they don't increase pay because you move to a HCOL).
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You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?
GitLab doesn't charge based on the location of their customers.