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Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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It's not a trick. It's a sale. Have you never seen anything go on sale before?

An analogy to help explain: You see someone dressed as a hotdog holding a giant promotional "50 OFF, TODAY ONLY!!!" sign outside a restaurant. Is that restaurant somewhere you'd consider taking a client for fine-dining?

Yes.

[Edit] - no, obviously not "for fine dining", but jeez, the guy is asking $49, not $4900! Who said anything about fine dining...?!

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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I decided to make a Wordle clone for a joke. About 1/5 of the time it took was figuring out the CSS. I’ll have to try this, but I’m a bit surprised how hard it is in Chrome Dev Tools to figure out what the CSS was for the card flip animation. I dunno if this is my own incompetence, or CSS, or Chrome, but there’s just a rats nest of styles and classes to try to unravel to figure out what styles are actually relevant t…

You may already be aware, but you can click on the "computed styles" tab for an element (in the devtools elements panel), and it will show you the exact values that were rendered. Much much much easier than trying to understand how the written CSS cascades down to that specific element.

The thing is though, as soon as you take it out of context (change the DOM structure, drop the nearby styles that don't directly target that element, etc) things are often going to stop behaving the way you want. At that point you honestly just have to know how to work with CSS for real if you want to get the desired outcome, which makes me skeptical of a tool that claims to let you clip out a piece of the page with all the CSS behavior intact

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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Thanks a lot for the support, @sbm15!

Can you share details on how you implemented paid license keys in a browser extension? I have an extension already written that is like to do the same with. And will the chrome and Firefox stores still host it?

try https://github.com/deadcoder0904/paid-license-chrome-extensi...

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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The notion of a sale for software and especially the countdown timer is a deliberate trick designed to separate people from their money. Just because many businesses engage in these kinds of dishonest tactics doesn't mean that people will just accept them. People don't like being tricked - it's a very legitimate criticism.

If this is a trick then you could arguably put pretty much any marketing into the same category. Looks nice? Cheaper than competition? Has newsletter? Great SEO? Really well authored content? Lovely video? Are these all "tricks" too? Because at some level, yes, you're being manipulated by pretty much anything that triggers desire. Seems entirely legitimate to me that people can choose whatever tools they want to sell…

The point isn't that this is "immoral".

The advice is simply that it's self-sabotaging to choose the design language of low-value infomercial type websites.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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If this is a trick then you could arguably put pretty much any marketing into the same category. Looks nice? Cheaper than competition? Has newsletter? Great SEO? Really well authored content? Lovely video? Are these all "tricks" too? Because at some level, yes, you're being manipulated by pretty much anything that triggers desire. Seems entirely legitimate to me that people can choose whatever tools they want to sell…

The point isn't that this is "immoral". The advice is simply that it's self-sabotaging to choose the design language of low-value infomercial type websites.

He seems to be doing ok. Quotes from Brad Frost. Revenues of ~$700k. I'm not sure that much sabotage going on, tbh ;-)

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

#56

Anyone who spends a lot of time writing / editing HTML and CSS should spend some time to learn how to use browser development tools. All the features shown here are easily accomplished using built-in tools. And a lot more

Agreed. Are there advantages to this over say Firefox Web Developer Tools, where not only can you see the css as you hover but actually edit the css to see the changes? What am I missing? If there are benefits, I'm not sure the site is doing a very good job of selling them.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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I can't think of a use case where I'd need to copy someone else's (probably messy) CSS. I assume this is aimed at beginners?

Anyone working on agency-led projects would benefit from this. Think pharma or other brand-focused companies where the same design elements need to be replicated across multiple, separate projects. Agencies throw over templates or prototypes and expect the rest of the company to be following along. Something like this would reduce the pain somewhat when a manager is asking you to replicate parts of the design. Sellin…

That sounds like it can/should be solved using reusable parts of a design system though.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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You INSTANTLY lost me with the fake-scarcity countdown timer. Bounced so fast & immediately looked to see if HN has a downvote button. If you're targeting engineers and sophisticated people you need to rethink that.

Sometimes the hostile responses on here really floor me. Maybe think before you type something like this. This is a really solid, incredibly professional and really not very expensive product. I use it all the time. The guy shipped something, and he shipped something great. You may not like countdown timers but jeez, ease off a bit maybe?

Honestly, I have no idea why HNers are so hostile about such a cheap product. If you like it, just buy it whether you want to treat it as a tool, a toy or whatever. If you don't like, just leave it alone.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Scan 3.0, a fast way to check and copy CSS

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I've used tools like this, but built into products that want selectors as implementation detail for non-technical ppl. (Think AppCues flows or Intercom product tours.)

They've all generally picked horrible selectors which then leads to getting a dev involved to provide a better one. So the angle you have on selector intelligence is the most compelling aspect to me.

How readily can new rules be added? And do you have lots of rules specific to different frameworks? For example if I'm using FrameworkA and it loves to splash ids like Component-12345 where 12345 counts up from zero, the id will be very alluring to basic selector generator tools. One stop identifier. However the example I give is an unstable id because every execution loads components differently and the ids will be assigned differently next time

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