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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by chx »

6510 wrote: post #596
chx wrote: post #476

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I never stopped using them. I never could stop using them, it feels so clumsy to work a PC without gestures. I am currently using StrokesPlus.net for this purpose, I am sure there are others.

Long ago MyIE2 had the most sophisticated mouse gestures. For example: One could select some text, drag it and it would search. (I had search configured to open non advertisement results in background tabs) If the text contained any links it in stead opened each of them in tabs to the right. So you selected the entire menu of the blog and tossed it to the right. There were gestures to move to the tab on the left or r…

When the spying allegations surfaced I kinda lost interest in maxthon, how is it these days?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by autoexec »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #647
autoexec wrote: post #631

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I wish they also had a way to search tabs without the address bar. I insist that address bars act solely as address bars so I've disabled all other features from it including search.

It's the CLI component. Thank goodness your insistence is a preference no one else has to live with.

Even a CLI shouldn't be making internet connections automatically or unpredictably. If my terminal had the option to send my keystrokes to some sever for autocomplete suggestions (and market research) or did things like automatically append parts of URLs to what I type by guessing at what I wanted I'd disable that too.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by virgildotcodes »

alex_sf wrote: post #482
virgildotcodes wrote: post #455

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It's a bad argument, it's a tu quoque logical fallacy. You can be a serial killer and admit that murdering innocents is immoral. The identity and the actions of the person making the argument have no bearing on the validity of the argument itself, it should be judged purely on its own merits. Is that statement that "murdering innocents is immoral" actually correct or not, regardless of who makes the statement? https:…

I addressed this in lighter terms below, but I don't think this is a logical fallacy (in context). To carry on your example, a serial killer that believes murdering innocents is immoral should also consider themselves immoral. They have the option to not kill, and continue to do it. This is very different from the 'holier than thou' perspective taken by those who condescendingly dismiss arguments that they are contri…

I mean, it is a logical fallacy, in that it is an attempt to dismiss the validity of the argument through a variation of ad hominem. Again, whether or not the person making the argument is a hypocrite, a monster, or a talking dolphin has no bearing on the validity of their argument.

The argument's validity rests purely on its own merits, regardless of who espouses or expresses it.

I can be a smoker and admit that smoking is absolutely horrible for you. Just because I am a smoker doesn't mean that the statement that smoking is horrible for you is incorrect.

I think we're just talking about two fundamentally different things.

1) Whether or not people are hypocrites (and yes, they definitely are).

2) Whether or not that hypocrisy invalidates their arguments (and no, it has no bearing on the validity of their argument).

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by aluminaient »

turboponyy wrote: post #640
rsync wrote: post #623

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“TST is literally the killer feature for FF …” No - it is figuratively the killer feature. If it were literally the killer function this would be a very different discussion .

> literally the (killer feature) vs > (literally the killer) feature A "killer feature" is a phrase with its own meaning so we can treat it as an atom and apply modifiers to it. The order of operations matters, and I posit that the OP placed their imaginary parentheses as I did in my first example.

No. There is no such thing as a "literally killer feature" unless it is some feature that can cause death. A killer feature in this case is exclusively figurative and adding "literally" is wrong to do.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by michaelcampbell »

hmry wrote: post #654
michaelcampbell wrote: post #627

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With that many tabs I can't get either to work well, tbh. OTOH, FF has an _apparent_ speed advantage for me in that it crashes pretty regularly so I'm not having to worry about memory leaks. =\

Same here, I also get frequent crashes on FF. In the past it used to crash when selecting text with the mouse, but since the latest update that seems to have been fixed. Now it tends to crash when drag&dropping things instead.

I could never figure out any consistent action to cause it; it would be there, then it would not. Often when doing nothing. Could be some confluence of extensions I have, too.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Macha »

grupthink wrote: post #517
SixDouble5321 wrote: post #486

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It's not feature complete.

What features are incomplete?

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Also it's just going to be totally crippled once manifest v3 extensions are mandatory

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by greyhair »

rsync wrote: post #648
turboponyy wrote: post #640

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> literally the (killer feature) vs > (literally the killer) feature A "killer feature" is a phrase with its own meaning so we can treat it as an atom and apply modifiers to it. The order of operations matters, and I posit that the OP placed their imaginary parentheses as I did in my first example.

Touché!

Stabbity stabbity!

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by coded »

g3rv4 wrote: post #403
PossiblyKyle wrote: post #309

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Its only killer feature to me is that websites are designed and tested with a Chromium-first attitude. As a regular FF user I might stumble upon a website that’s quite buggy or straight up doesn’t work, which forces me to use Chrome for that specific website. Other than that I don’t really feel like there’s anything, and Edge is currently a better Chrome than Chrome anyway. EDIT: and for the record, I’m still upset M…

I built an extension[1] so that I could choose which sites are opened in Chrome... so that whenever I need to use Google Meet, it automatically opens it on Chrome. [1]: https://onchrome.gervas.io

Thanks this sounds exactly what I need! Pretty much only use Chrome for Google Meet.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by coded »

SixDouble5321 wrote: post #488
kahnclusions wrote: post #45

I've switched from Firefox to Safari for most of my browsing, and Chrome for anything that needs devtools. Why? Battery. Efficiency. On the new M1 Macbooks I can run Safari and be unplugged all day long. The increased power consumption and battery drain is noticeable when using FF and I can't make it all the way through the day. As far as extensions go, I have 1Blocker and it works well, it does block YouTube ads. Th…

Safari feels like what would happen if Playschool made a browser. It's funny to me how many people give one tiny reason and are like... Nope goodbye forever.

Hah, so true on both points.
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