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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by bee_rider »

raffraffraff wrote: post #107
bbkane wrote: post #6

I'm a big fan of Firefox containers. I occasionally need different logins for the same sites and containers make that much easier than Google's profile feature.

Containers is the big thing imho. Having two bookmarks that go to different Gmail accounts, with each opening in a different container tab, and each container being logged into just that account. Same for AWS accounts.

Is the purpose of using two bookmarks to open the container and gmail simultaneously? I just use one bookmark, two containers, each is only logged on to one gmail account.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by alex_sf »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #455
alex_sf wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand why that's a bad argument. In context, it's generally used to oppose hard leftist ideas (Marxism, etc). It's rarely a criticism leveled at reasonable reform or change; more when it nears outright revolution. In that case, it's not an unreasonable criticism.

It's a bad argument, it's a tu quoque logical fallacy. You can be a serial killer and admit that murdering innocents is immoral. The identity and the actions of the person making the argument have no bearing on the validity of the argument itself, it should be judged purely on its own merits. Is that statement that "murdering innocents is immoral" actually correct or not, regardless of who makes the statement? https:…

I addressed this in lighter terms below, but I don't think this is a logical fallacy (in context). To carry on your example, a serial killer that believes murdering innocents is immoral should also consider themselves immoral. They have the option to not kill, and continue to do it.

This is very different from the 'holier than thou' perspective taken by those who condescendingly dismiss arguments that they are contributing to things, by their own free actions, that they claim are evil.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by g3rv4 »

Beached wrote: post #475

I wish I could use FF full time. but unfortunately I need to be able to use background blur in Google hangouts, and FF doesn't support. that's the last feature I'm waiting on.

Replied with this on a different thread, but I built an extension[1] so that I could choose which sites are opened in Chrome... so that whenever I need to use Google Meet, it automatically opens it on Chrome.

[1]: https://onchrome.gervas.io

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

rraghur wrote: post #57

You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are absolutely essential 1. Containers... I use another unverified extension to match urls and automatically assign containers... 2. Ublock origin 3. Tree style tabs 4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request That said, i still end up using chromium for tea…

I am confused about the "I don't have any other choice" comment. I assume you mean because Firefox doesn't support whatever teams uses for meeting audio/video, or maybe it's the install feature you mentioned, but I use Firefox for both and use my phone for meetings.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by lol768 »

bit_logic wrote: post #417
behringer wrote: post #397

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I only had one site in recent memory that failed to load. I put in a call to the support line and they fixed it. Tbh this whole idea that the web is broken on ff is not true, tho it is true some web assembly apps fail to work properly in my experience. I challenge anyone here to give an actual useful site that fails to work properly in ff.

A recent example I found: https://tools.usps.com/rcas.htm (the "Initializing Services" modal never goes away in FF, works almost immediately in Chrome and Edge) This is just the most recent example I remember, unfortunately there have been enough at this point that if I'm doing anything important (such as filling and submitting some important form), I do it in Chrome because I don't want it to silently break in FF an…

> A recent example I found: https://tools.usps.com/rcas.htm (the "Initializing Services" modal never goes away in FF, works almost immediately in Chrome and Edge)

I can't reproduce this in FF 104.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

theden wrote: post #232
rraghur wrote: post #57

You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are absolutely essential 1. Containers... I use another unverified extension to match urls and automatically assign containers... 2. Ublock origin 3. Tree style tabs 4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request That said, i still end up using chromium for tea…

uBlock Origin does exist on chrome btw https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...

It's not feature complete.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by causality0 »

johnsea wrote: post #381
Jenk wrote: post #287

I used Firefox in the early-mid 00s, switched to Chrome not long after launch, after my colleagues showed me how much slicker is was than a now fairly heavy Firefox (at the time.) Then evil Google emerges, Chrome got fat, FF trimmed up and went privacy-as-a-default, and I'm back on FF again for the better part of the last decade. Opera had a look-in around 2008 but it didn't last long, although some of the features w…

I never switched to Chrome, always used Firefox. But it increasingly got more config-involving to make FF do what I wanted and maybe I overdid some settings/plugins and websites started to show incorrectly. Also the imho (much) too high salary for the CEO annoyed me (Mozilla is supposed to be "Internet for people, not profit"). Tried Brave and it was a nice experience after some initial cost to e.g. disable crypto. S…

The worst thing about using Firefox is that the longer you use it the more things you have done to un-fuck it and the more work it is to replicate all those things on a new system.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

kahnclusions wrote: post #45

I've switched from Firefox to Safari for most of my browsing, and Chrome for anything that needs devtools. Why? Battery. Efficiency. On the new M1 Macbooks I can run Safari and be unplugged all day long. The increased power consumption and battery drain is noticeable when using FF and I can't make it all the way through the day. As far as extensions go, I have 1Blocker and it works well, it does block YouTube ads. Th…

Safari feels like what would happen if Playschool made a browser.

It's funny to me how many people give one tiny reason and are like... Nope goodbye forever.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by triyambakam »

divs1210 wrote: post #436
johnsea wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never switched to Chrome, always used Firefox. But it increasingly got more config-involving to make FF do what I wanted and maybe I overdid some settings/plugins and websites started to show incorrectly. Also the imho (much) too high salary for the CEO annoyed me (Mozilla is supposed to be "Internet for people, not profit"). Tried Brave and it was a nice experience after some initial cost to e.g. disable crypto. S…

Same! I switched from FF to Brave a few months back, and I'm liking it a lot. I miss a few features, but nothing major.

Yep! Lifetime FF user and I switched to Brave a few weeks ago. It took a little while to get used to the interface but otherwise enjoying it.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Lev1a »

BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #465
iknowstuff wrote: post #451

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Given that Brave is a for-profit business backed by VC money[1], sooner or later it'll become what you hate and you will find yourself wishing there was a browser ran by a strong non-profit like Mozilla. That being said, perhaps they should just piggyback off WebKit/Blink and save themselves a ton of resources. [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/brave-software

Mozilla may be a non-profit but there’s a saying: “non profit doesn’t mean they don’t make money”. It’s not too difficult to disable, but Firefox does push suggestions by default and has a revenue sharing agreement with Pocket.

> Firefox [...] has a revenue sharing agreement with Pocket

"Mozilla Corporation" bought Pocket in 2017.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_(service) :

> On February 27, 2017, Pocket announced that it had been acquired by Mozilla Corporation, the commercial arm of Firefox's non-profit development group. Mozilla staff stated that Pocket would continue to operate as an independent subsidiary but that it would be leveraged as part of an ongoing "Context Graph" project.[6] There are plans to open-source the server-side code of Pocket,[11][12][13] with more than 50 repositories already available on the company's GitHub account, including their iOS app.

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