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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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> To toss in the requisite anecdata, my sister got pregnant this past fall. She was due for a booster but FUD about it hurting the baby swayed her mind. She got omicron in late December, post-covid complications nearly took her and the baby in late February, and she had to live in the hospital until she delivered in June. The tricky thing with this though is that, what if there is an unknown side effect due to lack o…

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You also don't need to post flamewar comments or name-calling attacks of this sort—it actually weakens the case you'd prefer to strengthen. A reply like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32132621 does the job vastly better.

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32131661.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

Here again a blatant lack of clarity around the issue. Who are dying and at what rate? What are their comorbidities? What is the vax status of those that are dying, presumably many have taken the vaccine anyways yes? But you do you, is the point. I'm perfectly fine with my choice of not taking it: I'm not overweight, I lift weights and exercise regularly, have low bodyfat percent, I get plenty of sunlight for Vitamin…

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

Yeah my SO had a very regular cycle before getting the vaccine (Pfizer). After the first shot it got totally out of whack. The doctors say they don't know why that is yet immediately follow up by saying "but the vaccine is completely safe". I'm no anti-vaxxer, but that trips my BS alert bigtime. All I hear is "duck and cover".

I’ve been too afraid to post this but you’ve inspired me.

I (a male) have always been super horny ever since I hit puberty. I woke up nearly every morning with an erection as long as I can remember. I’ve never had problems with erections with my wife.

I got the first Pfizer vaccine last year when it became available. The next time I was intimate with my wife, I lost my erection during sex - the first time it has ever happened in my life. “Normal” side effect they said.

Things got a little better so I was encouraged. I got the second vaccine as scheduled. The next two times we had sex I completely lost my erection during sex.

I’ve been searching to see if other men have had the same problem but either I am the only one, or everyone just sweeps it under the rug.

It’s been almost a year and I rarely have random erections. I thankfully don’t lose erections during sex, but I am no longer horny. I used to be the one to initiate sex through our marriage but now my wife usually does. My sex life has taken a huge hit since getting the vaccines. Of course I can’t blame the vaccines, but you will not be able to convince me that this is a coincidence.

The reason I am writing this is in case there are other men like me who think they are the only ones, because anyone who even thinks the vaccine could cause problems gets labeled an anti-vaxxer nut job. I was pro vaccine (I got my series right away) and still think the vaccine is important, but I think it’s a shame that no one is “allowed” to talk about side effects.

This is my anecdotal story.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Yeah my SO had a very regular cycle before getting the vaccine (Pfizer). After the first shot it got totally out of whack. The doctors say they don't know why that is yet immediately follow up by saying "but the vaccine is completely safe". I'm no anti-vaxxer, but that trips my BS alert bigtime. All I hear is "duck and cover".

Consider things that can also de-regulate a woman's cycle: Stress, eating different food, eating foods at different times, gaining a couple pounds, losing a couple pounds, getting sick, not sleeping enough, sleeping too much, etc etc etc. The menstrual cycle is often a very sensitive system, and one I would argue most people are very unfamiliar with.

My SO has tracked her cycle in detail for years. Nothing else has changed significantly compared to that period. Her cycle is still not back to normal, 9 months later.

I get that it's a sensitive system and it can be affected by a lot of benign factors. But if you don't know why your car is misfiring, how can you say with 100% certainty that there's not an issue with the engine?

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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It's common for people to feel like there must be brigading when downvotes etc. show up quickly, but a much simpler explanation is that this stuff happens all the time on divisive topics, with no coordination required. It's also perfectly common for downvoted posts to get upvoted back to positive, as other readers come in. It's actually to be expected for unfairly downvoted posts, since readers will give corrective u…

I know there's volatility in voting, but the tone of discussion and vote patterns early in these discussions do not look at all like what happens later. It seems to happen repeatedly on topics of vaccines: thoughtful pro-vax stuff gets downvoted/gray.

There's one thing I particularly disagree with: I do not think labelling a user that posts large piles of anti-vaccine content as "antivax" is ad-hom.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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> because of the potential unknown side effects Without trying to inflame the rhetoric in this discussion (I feel like HN is one of the few places that this is possible) – will this be your stance on new vaccines and medicines going forward? "Potential unknown side effects" is a critique that can be levied against almost any medical approval process, but the FDA has had an excellent track record with vaccine safety o…

Just anecdotally I can only speak for myself but I have stayed clear of vaccines for 29 years after the military used experimental vaccines on me and I never doubted or regretted my decision. I instead focus on keeping my innate and adaptive immune systems incredibly strong. This requires discipline and dedication to a strict diet and moderate exercise and is why I suspect that many people are opposed to this way of…

Just out of interest, how do you mean used experimental vaccines on you? Is this something you opted in to?

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

I think (at least) three big problems intersect here: 1. the sci/med establishment seems to have some ongoing ~bias issues that I don't fully understand when it comes to listening to and taking lay people seriously (especially women) 2. it's hard to do complex synthesis of relative risks and rewards across different studies measuring different things for different reasons 3. we've had a lot of uninformed and maliciou…

I have a lot of unvaccinated friends, some of whom have now had COVID. Their experience is not any different to those who were vaccinated. Bear in mind, Omicron emerged in 25% vaccinated South Africa and the reports from there were that it was so mild people didn't even realize they had COVID.

The problem with your view about "uninformed and malicious actors" is that this is how public health describes anyone who points out their mistakes. It's a cliché they use to shut down debate and opposition. I've read a lot of material about vaccines now from non-public health sources and never seen any that could be described as malicious or uninformed. Indeed, they are usually way more informed than those who simply "follow the science". And the idea they're malicious is pure Hollywood fiction. None of them ever are. They just want to know what's true about the disease and vaccines. You could though, argue that about the public health officials who constantly lie to the public about scientific topics in order to generate compliance.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Corners were indeed cut. Reproductive toxicity was not studied. At vaccine rollouts, reproductive toxicity was only studied on rats, then about a year later there was finally a single very narrow study of a few dozen women, after billions of doses were administered. More generally, the control group was lost during the trials (they vaccinated the control group). I don’t have time at the moment to dig up my sources ag…

Another example of a corner being cut is that it was not tested on pregnant women

Here's a short list of some aspects of the vaccine trials that most people would find surprising and out of step with how safety is described:

1. More people in the vaccinated arm died than in the unvaccinated arm.

Effectiveness against death = negative. This was ignored because, they said, the difference was too small to be statistically significant. That's not a logical way to use the concept of statistical significance. What these results meant is that the vaccines might kill more people than they save, or it might be a statistical fluke. A normal person would expect such a result to drive demand for more data to resolve the question definitively, but that didn't happen and now heavily vaccinated countries have non-COVID excess death that started at the time of the rollout. The goal of the vaccines was to save lives but now people are dying of non-COVID causes at a greater rate than expected.

2. At least one of the deaths in the Pfizer trial was advertised as non-vaccine related even though it was.

Anonymized study subject C4591001 1162 11621327 was found dead in his apartment several days after taking the first dose, likely time of death was only one or two days after the first dose given that police were called due to a welfare check and his body was found cold. The coroner didn't know he was in a vaccine trial and ruled the death cardiac/arteriosclerosis related, no autopsy was done and this report was then presented as evidence that the death wasn't vaccine related despite the obvious temporal association.

3. No studies of the effects on pregnancy at all. This is normal and to protect babies.

Now we have the birthrate figures for the first quarter 9 months after the vaxx rollout reached mothers of childbearing age and they are down 15%-25% which is a huge difference, quite unprecedented. In Taiwan births are down 27%! So it looks a lot like the vaccines have trashed our already low fertility rates, which is a catastrophic outcome especially as they should never have been administered to women of that age to begin with (look at excess mortality by age for before the vaxx rollout, there's none under 45 for all of Europe and in some places like Sweden, none under 75).

3. The placebo arm received another vaccine, not saline as you would expect.

This is because the bad reactions would unblind people otherwise, so you have to give people something that will give them equally bad reactions. There are two problems with this: (a) the counter-factual in reality is not some random other vaccine but rather no vaccine at all, so they weren't testing against what would actually happen in the real world, and (b) although the trials are advertised as the pinnacle of scientific rationality there is absolutely nothing rational about the placebo effect. Think about it.

4. Cases of severe cardiac damage were fraudulently recorded.

Study subject C4591001 12312982, now known to be a 35 year old Argentinian lawyer named Augusto Roux, started to immediately feel unwell and developed a high fever on his way home after taking his second dose. A couple of days later he fainted and went to hospital where a CAT scan revealed heart inflammation; the doctor concluded vaccine damage. Augusto was told by nurses that there had been a huge influx of patients coming to the hospital from the trial. One nurse estimated maybe 300 people which would have been 10% of the patients from that part of the trial alone, which is why they were able to quickly identify the likely cause.

When he contacted the trial operators to inform them of his hospital visit they wrote down that it was not vaccine related, in contradiction to the diagnosis by the hospital, and that he'd been admitted for "bilateral pneumonia". Later on they updated the diagnosis to be COVID-19, which wasn't even then counted against vaccine effectiveness because he had a negative test.

Even worse, Roux appealed through the regulator to get the trial operators to unblind him (which they falsely claimed they could not do). Immediately before the appeal was due to be heard, the lead trial doctor (a pediatrician!) put in his trial record around the time of the regulatory appeal that Augusto was mentally ill, due to supposed "anxiety". No actual medical work was done to establish this fake diagnosis. It simply appeared.

https://jackanapes.substack.com/p/is-subject-12312982-the-ke...

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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I work in healthcare and life sciences, I am vaxed, and I can say I fully believe you are correct. I have to attest and show my vax cards to keep my job or get a new one and - of all things - we had to show vax cards to go to a behind the scene animal encounter at a zoo. Does the vaccinne stop us from catching it or from giving it to others? There is no evidence, yet, that it does. Am I having to weasel word my post…

We ban accounts for breaking the site guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), not for being wrong or having a minority or contrarian view. If you present your contrarian view in a substantive, respectful, curious way and avoid flamewar tropes, you should be fine. That's not easy, though. The temptation to lash out at users representing the majority view is really high (edit: especially when o…

Thank you for the explanation. I have nothing but respect for the work and community you have built here.

edit - I read through the links you posted. My publicly stated concern was likely unfair and I apologize. I will be better.

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