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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by ipspam »

autoexec wrote: post #158
in_cahoots wrote: post #9

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

> but nobody really cared to look at the impact on menstruation or pregnancy beyond confirming that the rate of miscarriage is unchanged. It's hard to blame them for not spending a ton of time before approving the vaccine considering safe changes to menstruation when they were working to do something about the dead bodies which were piling up so quickly they had to be stacked into semi trailers and dumped into mass g…

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by ec109685 »

jl6 wrote: post #41

> What else should I know about this research? > The nature of this survey means that we cannot compare the incidence of different experiences here with the general population (meaning, 40% of this sample having an experience does not mean that is the rate of that experience out in the world). The associations described here are not causal but provide evidence to better study these trends further. We emphasize that m…

It’s so disturbing there are summaries like this that disregard the fact that this is self reported and there is a huge disclaimer that it is overly counting the incidents:

“Nearly half of the participants of a recent study who were menstruating regularly at the time of the survey reported heavier bleeding during their periods after receiving the Covid-19 vaccine”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/15/well/live/covid-vaccines-...

Of course people when you ask them to reflect on something when there are news reports floating around about the issue are going to over report.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by lelandfe »

SoftTalker wrote: post #8

"Vaccine trial protocols do not typically monitor for major adverse events for more than 7 days" I am stunned by this. Seven days? Is there really no reason to think that a vaccine candidate might have adverse effects more than a week later?

Important to note that longer-term studies happened before full FDA approval:

> More than half of the clinical trial participants were followed for safety outcomes for at least four months after the second dose. Overall, approximately 12,000 recipients have been followed for at least 6 months.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-appr...

But also "Phase 4" clinical trials are where the study of long-term effects occur. Moderna, Pfizer, and J&J are all doing those today. Here's a Jan 2022 paper that has some information on current-ish specifics: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8665991/

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by woodruffw »

PKop wrote: post #124
woodruffw wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of skepticism goes both ways: you could get COVID next week and discover that you have a latent comorbidity that otherwise would never have affected you. From a public health perspective, universal (or near-universal) vaccination is an unequivocal good. Given the sum of what we know about both COVID and any side effects of vaccination, this remains the case.

This is an abuse of language: "universal vaccination" Is it a vaccine, or a therapy? Why does the supposed efficacy of the vaccines ability to prevent spread of covid wane so quickly? At best the vax is novel therapy that temporarily boosts immune system to fight the current strain. But whatever the side effects of this mechanism, they can accumulate with each successive round of boosters. Is it safe to keep taking t…

These questions presuppose a false dichotomy: vaccines can be therapeutic, prophylactic, or both. Simultaneously, they can be either sterilizing or attenuating with respect to the immunity they provide.

The COVID vaccines are prophylactic and therapeutic. So far, they seem to be mostly attenuating with respect to their immunity, not unlike flu vaccines (in two regards: both weak cross-strain protection and much milder illness when infected with the targeted strain). Additionally, there's decent empirical evidence that "breakthrough" cases are generally less contagious.

"Being realistic here" means getting a free, readily available vaccine that reduces the risk of serious illness or death. Separately, it means doing your civic duty to reduce load on our medical institutions and lessen the latent risk to those around you (who may have comorbidities that you are not privy to and are not entitled to be privy to).

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by Zigurd »

NullPrefix wrote: post #130
Zigurd wrote: post #118

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Thalidomide caused birth defects because it is in your system during pregnancy. Thalidomide is still in use to treat leprosy. Thalidomide does not cause second-generation birth defects.

>Thalidomide does not cause second-generation birth defects. That's exactly what the parent commenter said. Your children are affected, but your first grandchildren should be safe.

The poster I responded to wrote: "Thalidomide is out of your system by your first grandchild." Actually, Thalidomide is out of your system within days. Quite a bit less time than it takes to have a grandchild.

The poster implies that there could be unknown long term effects of a vaccine, and conflates long term effects with birth defects, which, of course, appear only after a fetus has developed enough to spot defects in a sonogram or other imaging. It's a scare tactic.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by inferiorhuman »

busymom0 wrote: post #36
mcronce wrote: post #20

> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

1. Covid vax does not prevent long covid: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/05/25/long-covid-... 2. Healthy young people under 50 or even 60 were not dying or getting hospitalized. Whatever risk they want to take, they should be able to take it without mandates. Since the vax does not prevent infection or transmission, one is only taking individual risk and not affecting others.

> Healthy young people under 50 or even 60 were not dying or getting hospitalized.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-case...

By 35 and again by 50 your risk of death's increased. By 60 you're already seeing a disproportionately large amount of deaths.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by inquirerGeneral »

NullPrefix wrote: post #103
junofan wrote: post #82

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I think a similar thing happened with the 1949 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine. It remains unvacated.

Could you elaborate a bit more on that Nobel Prize?

Google exists. Are you that unable to use it?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2004/aug/02/highereduc...

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1949/moniz/articl...

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by ok_dad »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #63
abathur wrote: post #39

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I think (at least) three big problems intersect here: 1. the sci/med establishment seems to have some ongoing ~bias issues that I don't fully understand when it comes to listening to and taking lay people seriously (especially women) 2. it's hard to do complex synthesis of relative risks and rewards across different studies measuring different things for different reasons 3. we've had a lot of uninformed and maliciou…

> To toss in the requisite anecdata, my sister got pregnant this past fall. She was due for a booster but FUD about it hurting the baby swayed her mind. She got omicron in late December, post-covid complications nearly took her and the baby in late February, and she had to live in the hospital until she delivered in June. The tricky thing with this though is that, what if there is an unknown side effect due to lack o…

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Post by inquirerGeneral »

nerdponx wrote: post #85
bsaul wrote: post #56

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The problem now is that so many people, in so many fields, relayed that "everything's safe, if you disagree or dare casting doubts you're an a ti-science sociopath", that it's going to be super super hard for them to admit they were wrong.

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Mishandle? They got the vaccine rolled out by August and September to start production.

One of the few things Trump did correctly was the early pandemic handling while the cries of "stop travel from China" was called racist and unnecessary.

There was nothing else that could have been done except fire the head of the CDC after their flip flop politics instead of science.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by inquirerGeneral »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #166
busymom0 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Covid vax does not prevent long covid: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/05/25/long-covid-... 2. Healthy young people under 50 or even 60 were not dying or getting hospitalized. Whatever risk they want to take, they should be able to take it without mandates. Since the vax does not prevent infection or transmission, one is only taking individual risk and not affecting others.

> Healthy young people under 50 or even 60 were not dying or getting hospitalized. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-case... By 35 and again by 50 your risk of death's increased. By 60 you're already seeing a disproportionately large amount of deaths.

Interesting how the Latino population in Age \ Deaths doesn't increase with age like the other populations

What you said only applies to Latinos

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