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Post by Auracle »

mint2 wrote: post #229
inquirerGeneral wrote: post #169

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Mishandle? They got the vaccine rolled out by August and September to start production. One of the few things Trump did correctly was the early pandemic handling while the cries of "stop travel from China" was called racist and unnecessary. There was nothing else that could have been done except fire the head of the CDC after their flip flop politics instead of science.

> One of the few things Trump did correctly was the early pandemic handling while the cries of "stop travel from China" was called racist and unnecessary. Except it was because by that time the horse was long out of the barn and the China ban failed spectacularly. cases were already here and also coming in from Europe. If it didn’t fail why did we get a Covid pandemic? At that point what was needed was massive testin…

The whole point of what was being messaged at the time, and why we went in to hard lockdowns, was to slow the spread. It makes sense to restrict travel from the place that probably had the most infections at the time if that’s your goal.

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Post by somewhereoutth »

incrudible wrote: post #221
somewhereoutth wrote: post #218

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Yes the science absolutely does say so - perhaps try to follow it before spreading mis-information.

Show me the clinical trial that shows a benefit for administration of a Booster, or even just two doses, providing a net benefit for a healthy young person, after accounting for hazards like Myocarditis, with an Omikron infection. It doesn't exist, nor does anyone "in charge" want it to exist, or so it appears. The FDA waved through a trial for children with a sample size of about 1000, almost guaranteeing that a rar…

https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-charts-omicron-hospitali...

Over 50s effect of vaccination on hospitalization. If it is protecting older people against hospitalization then we can expect it to protect younger people from severe effects too. Unless you think the over 50s are some sort of frog vs the younger tadpole.

Plenty more everywhere.

So why would some of us be so vehemently anti-vax?

1) Belief in 'natural'. This has been a common marketing ploy since 'green' became a thing if not before. Of course the world we actually live in is entirely artificial - just as well as our 'natural' lives were nasty, brutish, and short.

2) Attempting to assert 'independence' or 'agency'. Again another marketing ploy, really we have very little agency or independence - however it is useful to make us believe we do and we should exercise it with our credit cards.

3) Attempting to be contrarian or a 'free thinker' in order to impress (ourselves? others?). Much much more humility is required before starting down that path.

4) Ideological/political propaganda/pressure from our peers. Belief systems have a tendency to become pathological when contained within a tightly delimited group. Probably this is a very great danger to our social discourse at present - though whether worse than before is unclear.

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Post by dktokyo »

iratewizard wrote: post #184
Zigurd wrote: post #165

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The poster I responded to wrote: "Thalidomide is out of your system by your first grandchild." Actually, Thalidomide is out of your system within days. Quite a bit less time than it takes to have a grandchild. The poster implies that there could be unknown long term effects of a vaccine, and conflates long term effects with birth defects, which, of course, appear only after a fetus has developed enough to spot defect…

You call it a scare tactic because you believe in medical interventionism. I respectfully point out one of the massive numbers of unexpected side effects of medical interventions.

So if you break your arm…

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Post by dudeDDRrulez »

dktokyo wrote: post #234
mmmmmbop wrote: post #192

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This is just an anecdotal experience, but I was living amongst an international coworking community of a few dozen people in South Africa when omicron first broke out, and the vaccination status of people did not seem to have any observable effect on the prevalence or severity of the contracted disease. That is to say that your sister may have experienced the same effects even if she had taken the booster.

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Post by dudeDDRrulez »

dktokyo wrote: post #235
throwaway406382 wrote: post #182

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Well, now we're just getting May data and maybe June data. So that would be conceptions starting in August 2021. Here's a really lame screen capture of a visualization I just made with the CDC data. The August time frame is where we're passing 50% of the 25-39 year-olds getting vaccinated. So that would start to show up in the May 2022 birth data. https://pasteboard.co/uhkdWFvhCf9c.png edit: this showed up in my inbo…

This could just as easily be related to increased infections among young people at this time. You have no reason to pin this specifically on vaccination.

Except they would have shown up earlier if it was COVID-19 infections driving this rather than vaccinations driving it. Timing matters here.

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Post by mint2 »

Auracle wrote: post #241
mint2 wrote: post #229

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> One of the few things Trump did correctly was the early pandemic handling while the cries of "stop travel from China" was called racist and unnecessary. Except it was because by that time the horse was long out of the barn and the China ban failed spectacularly. cases were already here and also coming in from Europe. If it didn’t fail why did we get a Covid pandemic? At that point what was needed was massive testin…

The whole point of what was being messaged at the time, and why we went in to hard lockdowns, was to slow the spread. It makes sense to restrict travel from the place that probably had the most infections at the time if that’s your goal.

Then China and Europe, not just China. Glad there was no comment justifying the other failings like the abysmal testing.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by dudeDDRrulez »

dktokyo wrote: post #240
ccn0p wrote: post #226

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That's a great point. Next up, we'll make sure Muslims can't go to the same conference because they chose not to go. Maybe your next thought is the vaccine makes the conference safer. Let's play Choose your own Adventure. You have to sit next to someone on a crowded airplane in economy class for 3 hours and this person loves to talk. You get to choose that this person is either a) vaccinated, or b) tested negative fo…

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There is no herd immunity in play with anyone vaccinated with COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Please remove that from your vocabulary when referencing the vaccines for one reason: they do not provide immunity and never have. Hence there is not and will not be herd immunity from vaccinations alone.

Please, spreading this nonsense does not help anyone. You are lying which makes you look bad (or if you think it’s actually true, it makes you look stupid).

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Post by lelandfe »

feelix wrote: post #239
bananabiscuit wrote: post #224

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Corners were indeed cut. Reproductive toxicity was not studied. At vaccine rollouts, reproductive toxicity was only studied on rats, then about a year later there was finally a single very narrow study of a few dozen women, after billions of doses were administered. More generally, the control group was lost during the trials (they vaccinated the control group). I don’t have time at the moment to dig up my sources ag…

Another example of a corner being cut is that it was not tested on pregnant women

Probably not a "cut corner," as that's unfortunately normal[0][1] (people have been trying to change it for decades now).

Happily Pfizer and Biontech have had extensive clinical trials ongoing for pregnant women since February 2021[2][3], and there was a preliminary analysis done across 35,691 recipients that had good findings[4]. It's something that regulators have paid a lot of attention to, with tens of thousands enrolled in the V-safe COVID-19 Vaccine Pregnancy Registry.[5]

[0] https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/global-regulators...

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3547525/

[2] https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

[3] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04754594

[4] https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2104983

[5] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vs...

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Post by dennis_jeeves1 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #76
PKop wrote: post #11

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I find this hard to believe. It’s beneficial for everyone including manufacturers for their products to be proven safe. If we assume manufacturers are intentionally malicious, what prevents them from outright submitting a dummy saline shot for testing instead of the real thing, guaranteeing absolutely zero side-effects?

>I find this hard to believe. It’s beneficial for everyone including manufacturers for their products to be proven safe.

The world does not work that way unfortunately.

>what prevents them from outright submitting a dummy saline shot for testing instead

Perfectly possibly.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by logic_beats_pro »

ellisv wrote: post #30
SoftTalker wrote: post #8

"Vaccine trial protocols do not typically monitor for major adverse events for more than 7 days" I am stunned by this. Seven days? Is there really no reason to think that a vaccine candidate might have adverse effects more than a week later?

Given that the vaccine itself is out of your system within a few days, and if effective begin triggering an immune response, I don’t think there’s not much reason to monitor for safety beyond that point.

It is a permanent change to your immune system which lasts forever. There is no "undo" button to getting these vaccines.

Remember when it was claimed the spike protein is out of your body in 48 hours? This study found the spike protein persists in the body for at least 16 days and the antigen can be found for at least 60 days.

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9

Thats longer than if you actually contract COVID.

So now knowing this, would you monitor for safety longer?

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