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Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by kaba0 »

PKop wrote: post #124
woodruffw wrote: post #73

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This kind of skepticism goes both ways: you could get COVID next week and discover that you have a latent comorbidity that otherwise would never have affected you. From a public health perspective, universal (or near-universal) vaccination is an unequivocal good. Given the sum of what we know about both COVID and any side effects of vaccination, this remains the case.

This is an abuse of language: "universal vaccination" Is it a vaccine, or a therapy? Why does the supposed efficacy of the vaccines ability to prevent spread of covid wane so quickly? At best the vax is novel therapy that temporarily boosts immune system to fight the current strain. But whatever the side effects of this mechanism, they can accumulate with each successive round of boosters. Is it safe to keep taking t…

> but if they have to be repeatedly taken, they clearly do not effectively stop the spread of covid which the evidence shows.

That’s just a logical fallacy.

Aspirin cures my headache, but I will still get headaches - does that mean aspirin is useless?

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by kaba0 »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #120
bamboozled wrote: post #74

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I think the warning on the packet should've said that?

People didn't think the public could be trusted with that level of nuance. Turns out the public really doesn't like it when you treat them as idiots and the former group reaped what they sowed.

The public really is an idiot though, unfortunately.

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inferiorhuman wrote: post #203
busymom0 wrote: post #194

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Here in Canada, 97.2% of deaths are in 50+. https://i.imgur.com/dlDhdix.png Source: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/ Here's how the Ontario's hospitalization and death rate looks based on age and vax status in the 4 month period: https://imgur.com/a/UswEidp Source: https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/ep... Even before the vaccinations, the pre-vaccine infection fatality rate in anyone…

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by busymom0 »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #205
busymom0 wrote: post #197

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I have taken more vaccines than vast majority of the population due to my immigration status. Just because someone is criticizing the pros and cons of a medicine doesn't make them anti-vax. You are engaging in an ad hominem attack without knowing anything about me.

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You are consistently replying to my comments, calling me names and then getting mad at me in other comments for me replying back to you. You should read the hacker news guidelines.

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Post by incrudible »

manwe150 wrote: post #91
throwaway406382 wrote: post #69

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From a throwaway because of the potential backlash...This paper is pure bull. They did a survey of 30k people and asked them about their experience and then said that the vaccine didn't cause anything and that we should trust our institutions. They didn't even have a control (unvaccinated) group! Just 30k vaccinated folks who responded to a survey about whether they perceived more/less bleeding, and such. I'm actuall…

How bad is it for health? This paper also notes that the virus itself is of great concern foremost, so any conclusion must be in comparison to the alternative (aka the control group): “Studies and anecdotal reports are already demonstrating that menstrual function may be disrupted long term [by the virus], particularly in those with long COVID (32–35)” It seems so many commenters here miss that sentence, and live in…

> It seems so many commenters here miss that sentence, and live in a mental world where viruses are mostly benign but healthcare is mostly deadly.

Viruses are indeed mostly benign. Medical malpractice is a leading cause of death. In any case, it is not an either or. This vaccine does not prevent infection, the risk reduction for an otherwise healthy person, especially with the new variants and boosters, has never been established in a scientifically rigorous fashion. Yet, it is being recommended even to healthy children. You can hope and speculate that it has a benefit, but “the science” does not say so.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by OrangeMonkey »

kaba0 wrote: post #207
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #109

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I work in healthcare and life sciences, I am vaxed, and I can say I fully believe you are correct. I have to attest and show my vax cards to keep my job or get a new one and - of all things - we had to show vax cards to go to a behind the scene animal encounter at a zoo. Does the vaccinne stop us from catching it or from giving it to others? There is no evidence, yet, that it does. Am I having to weasel word my post…

With all due respect, not knowing your exact position, working in healthcare may not be more relevant to the topic the same way an average software dev would have a hard time fixing a deep-lying race condition in the database software. Healthcare is a huge field, an orthopedic surgeon’s opinion for example should hardly matter over that of a virologist.

Life science projects doing comparative outcome analysis between different patient groups that have different medication or behaviors.

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Post by somewhereoutth »

incrudible wrote: post #216
manwe150 wrote: post #91

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How bad is it for health? This paper also notes that the virus itself is of great concern foremost, so any conclusion must be in comparison to the alternative (aka the control group): “Studies and anecdotal reports are already demonstrating that menstrual function may be disrupted long term [by the virus], particularly in those with long COVID (32–35)” It seems so many commenters here miss that sentence, and live in…

> It seems so many commenters here miss that sentence, and live in a mental world where viruses are mostly benign but healthcare is mostly deadly. Viruses are indeed mostly benign. Medical malpractice is a leading cause of death. In any case, it is not an either or. This vaccine does not prevent infection, the risk reduction for an otherwise healthy person, especially with the new variants and boosters, has never bee…

Yes the science absolutely does say so - perhaps try to follow it before spreading mis-information.

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Post by somewhereoutth »

PKop wrote: post #23
mcronce wrote: post #20

> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

Here again a blatant lack of clarity around the issue. Who are dying and at what rate? What are their comorbidities? What is the vax status of those that are dying, presumably many have taken the vaccine anyways yes? But you do you, is the point. I'm perfectly fine with my choice of not taking it: I'm not overweight, I lift weights and exercise regularly, have low bodyfat percent, I get plenty of sunlight for Vitamin…

With Covid everything is fine until it isn't.

Furthermore, it is pretty obvious that a non-replicating fragment of a pathogen given even every 6 months is going to cause less damage than the real thing (also available every 6 months the way things are going). Luckily we've done extensive trials to back that up.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by somewhereoutth »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #42
StillBored wrote: post #29

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While I sorta tend to agree with you, this is a _RESULT_ of people refusing to take the vaccines (or do full lockdowns/wear masks/etc). Like the original SARs strains it should have been possible to eradicate through strong public health measures, one of which was vaccination. So, we can shrug this one off, because in the end it _only_ kills a percent or so of people, overwhelmingly already infirm or elderly. We may…

China literally locked down Shanghai and millions of people in their homes, had police everywhere monitoring, had almost no exceptions other than for the police, and literally boarded people in their homes, engaged every spying mechanism they had, did mandatory testing, for more than six weeks , and it did not stop COVID - but it is increasingly clear it only delayed it from spreading inevitably. Even WIRED, pro-vacc…

It did work. The outbreak in Shanghai was contained and reduced to zero. Maybe they will have to do it again.
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