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Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by abathur »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #63
abathur wrote: post #39

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I think (at least) three big problems intersect here: 1. the sci/med establishment seems to have some ongoing ~bias issues that I don't fully understand when it comes to listening to and taking lay people seriously (especially women) 2. it's hard to do complex synthesis of relative risks and rewards across different studies measuring different things for different reasons 3. we've had a lot of uninformed and maliciou…

> To toss in the requisite anecdata, my sister got pregnant this past fall. She was due for a booster but FUD about it hurting the baby swayed her mind. She got omicron in late December, post-covid complications nearly took her and the baby in late February, and she had to live in the hospital until she delivered in June. The tricky thing with this though is that, what if there is an unknown side effect due to lack o…

To put the exclamation point on it, she went into respiratory distress, was within minutes of death and was saved by a week on ECMO.

Until the vaccine kills more pregnant women than covid, it's not tricky. (Spoken, as before, as a selfish older brother who almost lost one of the few people who'll ever think I hung the stars.)

I wrote a little about this @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31208231

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by OrangeMonkey »

klipt wrote: post #112
nerdponx wrote: post #78

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Medical outcomes are substantially and consistently different for different racial groups in the USA. It's in part a proxy for economic status. It makes sense to control for it.

Is it that hard to just collect data on economic status instead?

In any biostatistics project, we have to segment patient population into groups based on an amazingly large set of variables. race, sex, approximate age, approximate location, distance from doctor, economic status are just the first few. All of these can have an impact on outcomes that has to be managed.

Yes, a persons race does have an impact on outcomes regardless of economic factors.

Recently, a few conferences talked about us trying to ignore race and instead move to genetic haplogroups as (in essence) race was used just to get at these genetic conditions (from their haplogroup). Its too early to say if that will happen. I am guessing eventually yes but not in our lifetime.

Hope this helps.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by [deleted] »

busymom0 wrote: post #36
mcronce wrote: post #20

> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

1. Covid vax does not prevent long covid: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/05/25/long-covid-... 2. Healthy young people under 50 or even 60 were not dying or getting hospitalized. Whatever risk they want to take, they should be able to take it without mandates. Since the vax does not prevent infection or transmission, one is only taking individual risk and not affecting others.

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by greenthrow »

junofan wrote: post #48
greenthrow wrote: post #33

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Quick Googling shows that the cold and flu can impact ovulation. So it is not a surprise that Covid or its vaccines can as well, since it often presents as more severe. It was still the correct choice of action for you to get the vaccine and potentially delay conception. It is safer for you and the baby if you are vaccinated. This study is just providing confirmation to something that all medical professionals likely…

> correct choice of action Correct? To… delay conception? According to… you? I am not comfortable leaving decisions like that to others.

I wasn't talking about forced vaccination. You know that. I explained myself very clearly. So you're coming off like a troll.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by greenthrow »

OrangeMonkey wrote: post #129
Nextgrid wrote: post #72

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There’s an argument for forcing this decision if it affects others. The prevailing theory, at least at the time, was that widespread vaccination would reduce spread and protect everyone including the unvaccinated. In that case, it could make sense to force people to delay if it means everyone ends up better off overall.

My wife and I are at the end of our child-capable years. A delay, even of a year or two, is likely to leave us without. I know you didn't mean this the way it sounded. I know you are probably well educated and think your choices are obvious. I will only state that I have very strong feelings towards someone who tries to force a decision like this on someone else.

We are not talking about a delay of a year or two.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by [deleted] »

macinjosh wrote: post #115
lelandfe wrote: post #105

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> because of the potential unknown side effects Without trying to inflame the rhetoric in this discussion (I feel like HN is one of the few places that this is possible) – will this be your stance on new vaccines and medicines going forward? "Potential unknown side effects" is a critique that can be levied against almost any medical approval process, but the FDA has had an excellent track record with vaccine safety o…

> the FDA has had an excellent track record with vaccine safety over the last ~70 years Yeah, and they did this by going through a lot of detailed processes, study, and trial. Not by doing what was done in this case.

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by dukeofdoom »

combyn8tor wrote: post #119
dukeofdoom wrote: post #71

The likely alternative is the people making the decisions knew it would harm or even kill some people, and still went ahead with it. And just set up a circle of deniability, and legal immunity in the event of any future litigation. This includes pfizer. In Ontario the politicians said they are following the advice of chief medical officer in implementing the lockdowns. But there's a moment of dark political satire, w…

> "I just read what they tell me to" Isn't it possible they're just talking about what their media advisers wrote for them? It doesn't mean they didn't set the agenda.

Who exactly set the agenda? I would like to know. Because predictably the lockdowns caused world wide instability, that directly lead to record inflation and fertilizer shortages that will put millions of people into food insecurity and at real risk of going hungry. It's hard to believe that this price was worth it.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by OrangeMonkey »

greenthrow wrote: post #135
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #129

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My wife and I are at the end of our child-capable years. A delay, even of a year or two, is likely to leave us without. I know you didn't mean this the way it sounded. I know you are probably well educated and think your choices are obvious. I will only state that I have very strong feelings towards someone who tries to force a decision like this on someone else.

We are not talking about a delay of a year or two.

With all due respect, at the time the vax were being pushed on everyone as 'safe' and 'trust the science' - we were not sure what impact it would have at all.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by inferiorhuman »

busymom0 wrote: post #66
mlyle wrote: post #58

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> 1. That was only true before Delta. Posting a disputed study that I criticized to try and refute me, when I posted important 2022 followup data to viral shedding based on actual infectivity rather than just RNA copies indicates you either didn't read my comment or didn't understand it. > 3. It is true and the government admits that boosted and vaxxed have higher rates. Ontario source: I just knew you were going to…

How’s that study disputed? That study is not alone either. NEJM has similar studies too. Your link seems to be an outlier. Denmark, UK, Scotland, and other provinces in Canada also show the same higher rates in boosted and fully vaxxed than unvaxxed. Walgreens data for US also shows this. Look at page 3 of: https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.j... Canadian government seroprevalence data also sh…

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by manwe150 »

throwaway406382 wrote: post #127
tiahura wrote: post #114

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How do you explain the fact that the US birth rate dipped (barely) pre-vaccine and has crept back up post-vaccine? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/natality-dashboard.htm#

Well, I'm not a doctor, just someone doing stats for doctors...but I think we're going to start seeing it as we're reaching the 9-month mark from the big push for child-bearing-age vaccination. It's starting to show up in Sweden and (I think) Taiwan, but it's not something I'm really studying. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/sweden-birthrate-update-m...

Didn’t the 9 month mark (since delta’s effect on vax rates) pass about 3 months ago in the US (referring to parent)? Or what time/mark event are you looking for?
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