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Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by dukeofdoom »

The likely alternative is the people making the decisions knew it would harm or even kill some people, and still went ahead with it. And just set up a circle of deniability, and legal immunity in the event of any future litigation. This includes pfizer.

In Ontario the politicians said they are following the advice of chief medical officer in implementing the lockdowns. But there's a moment of dark political satire, when on hot mic one of the chief medical officers before a press conference say's "I just read what they tell me to".

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-health-official-responds-...

"The trolley problem is a series of thought experiments in ethics and psychology, involving stylized ethical dilemmas of whether to sacrifice one person to save a larger number. The series usually begins with a scenario in which a runaway tram or trolley is on course to collide with and kill a number of people (traditionally five) down the track, but a driver or bystander can intervene and divert the vehicle to kill just one person on a different track." -Wikipedia

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by Nextgrid »

junofan wrote: post #48
greenthrow wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quick Googling shows that the cold and flu can impact ovulation. So it is not a surprise that Covid or its vaccines can as well, since it often presents as more severe. It was still the correct choice of action for you to get the vaccine and potentially delay conception. It is safer for you and the baby if you are vaccinated. This study is just providing confirmation to something that all medical professionals likely…

> correct choice of action Correct? To… delay conception? According to… you? I am not comfortable leaving decisions like that to others.

There’s an argument for forcing this decision if it affects others.

The prevailing theory, at least at the time, was that widespread vaccination would reduce spread and protect everyone including the unvaccinated.

In that case, it could make sense to force people to delay if it means everyone ends up better off overall.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by woodruffw »

PKop wrote: post #23
mcronce wrote: post #20

> long after covid is any sort threat whatsoever People dying and people with - and still getting- long COVID would probably disagree with that statement.

Here again a blatant lack of clarity around the issue. Who are dying and at what rate? What are their comorbidities? What is the vax status of those that are dying, presumably many have taken the vaccine anyways yes? But you do you, is the point. I'm perfectly fine with my choice of not taking it: I'm not overweight, I lift weights and exercise regularly, have low bodyfat percent, I get plenty of sunlight for Vitamin…

This kind of skepticism goes both ways: you could get COVID next week and discover that you have a latent comorbidity that otherwise would never have affected you.

From a public health perspective, universal (or near-universal) vaccination is an unequivocal good. Given the sum of what we know about both COVID and any side effects of vaccination, this remains the case.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by bamboozled »

airza wrote: post #35
in_cahoots wrote: post #9

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

The problem is that most vaccines affect menstruation; for obvious reasons the uterus is a hotbed of immune activity in the human body.

I think the warning on the packet should've said that?

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by Nextgrid »

PKop wrote: post #11
SoftTalker wrote: post #8

"Vaccine trial protocols do not typically monitor for major adverse events for more than 7 days" I am stunned by this. Seven days? Is there really no reason to think that a vaccine candidate might have adverse effects more than a week later?

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I find this hard to believe. It’s beneficial for everyone including manufacturers for their products to be proven safe.

If we assume manufacturers are intentionally malicious, what prevents them from outright submitting a dummy saline shot for testing instead of the real thing, guaranteeing absolutely zero side-effects?

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by jbd28 »

throwaway406382 wrote: post #69
in_cahoots wrote: post #9

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

From a throwaway because of the potential backlash...This paper is pure bull. They did a survey of 30k people and asked them about their experience and then said that the vaccine didn't cause anything and that we should trust our institutions. They didn't even have a control (unvaccinated) group! Just 30k vaccinated folks who responded to a survey about whether they perceived more/less bleeding, and such. I'm actuall…

Pretty strong words and claims while providing no data to refute the paper

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by nerdponx »

christkv wrote: post #62
ETH_start wrote: post #46

Is the reference to "people" instead of "women", in "currently and formerly menstruating people", a new trend in academia?

It's the anglo-sphere they've lost the plot. It's hard to take a study that splits data into white and the rest seriously as a scientific study. I was unaware that africans, South Americans and Asians were significantly different to "white" people to make a difference needed to be pointed out. What exactly are they suggesting. That the vaccine was engineered to have a more negative effect on non-white women?

Medical outcomes are substantially and consistently different for different racial groups in the USA. It's in part a proxy for economic status. It makes sense to control for it.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Post by woodruffw »

blumomo wrote: post #67
fernandotakai wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i took all three shots and got covid about two weeks ago. it was HARSH. no sense of smell, no sense of taste, 3 days with high-ish fever (39C), the body ache was crazy bad and worse of all: brain fog. i managed to avoid going to the hospital, but barely. and that's with 3 shots. i'm almost sure i would be in an ICU if i didn't get any shots.

> and that's with 3 shots. i'm almost sure i would be in an ICU if i didn't get any shots. How could we prove this hypothesis?

It’s an anecdote, not a hypothesis.
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