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Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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When people first talked about it, I was hearing scientists saying that both other viruses and vaccines often change periods, and thus it wasn’t surprising/alarming

Since the intent of the vaccination is to trigger an immune response very similar to the virus I think we should assume that all side effects the virus can cause could also be seen in vaccine trials.

The only symptom that I have yet to hear from the vaccination is loss of smell/taste.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

#82
post #56

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

The problem now is that so many people, in so many fields, relayed that "everything's safe, if you disagree or dare casting doubts you're an a ti-science sociopath", that it's going to be super super hard for them to admit they were wrong.

I think a similar thing happened with the 1949 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine. It remains unvacated.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

#83

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

From a throwaway because of the potential backlash...This paper is pure bull. They did a survey of 30k people and asked them about their experience and then said that the vaccine didn't cause anything and that we should trust our institutions. They didn't even have a control (unvaccinated) group! Just 30k vaccinated folks who responded to a survey about whether they perceived more/less bleeding, and such. I'm actuall…

Note that this is Science Advances, a much less prestigious journal than Science proper.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

#84

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

From a throwaway because of the potential backlash...This paper is pure bull. They did a survey of 30k people and asked them about their experience and then said that the vaccine didn't cause anything and that we should trust our institutions. They didn't even have a control (unvaccinated) group! Just 30k vaccinated folks who responded to a survey about whether they perceived more/less bleeding, and such. I'm actuall…

"Ten thousand report menstrual issues after having corona vaccine" (October 2021)

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/10/ten-thousand-report-me...

[Dutch Reference]: https://www.lareb.nl/news/veel-meldingen-menstruatiestoornis...

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

#85
post #56

As someone who was trying to conceive while the vaccine rolled out, this isn’t surprising. People were regularly reporting basal temperature spikes, delayed ovulation, and delayed periods. This is a community that is extremely data-oriented, since with the right measurements you’re able to predict your fertile (or non-fertile) window. I was disappointed to see how little research there was into menstruation at the ti…

The problem now is that so many people, in so many fields, relayed that "everything's safe, if you disagree or dare casting doubts you're an a ti-science sociopath", that it's going to be super super hard for them to admit they were wrong.

No post body was provided.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Is the reference to "people" instead of "women", in "currently and formerly menstruating people", a new trend in academia?

The lead author is in women's studies, not real science.

I quote from their abstract: "...among a convenience sample...39% of people on gender-affirming hormones"

convenience sample means "I asked my friends on social media"

And 39% on gender-affirming hormones! Yes, I know trans is all the rage now, but it's not 39% of the population! It's a highly biased sample.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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I have to wonder that the insistence of boosting so often might lead to the inverse effect desensitising the body to the proteins just like what happens when you vaccinate against allergies, possibly leading to worse illness than if you did not boost. The weird insistence on anti-body levels is another weird thing, just plainly ignoring immune memory. I suspect that we are not seeing grave illness anymore in most of…

Presumably that has not been a primary concern, since other vaccines also have historically had regular boosters and haven’t seen that happen (referring to Tdap, rabies, or flu shots) Flu vaccine has historically also been around 25-50% effective, and is still recommended and paid for by insurance, since the benefit is measured positively to you. So there is some precedent for disappointing numbers still being promot…

Sure once a year for flu shots with different strains. This is the exact same protein again and again. Nothing like this has been done before outside of allergy vaccines from what my allergist told me who is to say at the very least skeptical about it.

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

#88
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here again a blatant lack of clarity around the issue. Who are dying and at what rate? What are their comorbidities? What is the vax status of those that are dying, presumably many have taken the vaccine anyways yes? But you do you, is the point. I'm perfectly fine with my choice of not taking it: I'm not overweight, I lift weights and exercise regularly, have low bodyfat percent, I get plenty of sunlight for Vitamin…

My under 40 triathlete friend with no comorbidities who wound up in the ICU for a month and needed two surgeries to drain his lungs would beg to differ. Or my buddy down the block under 40 with no cormorbities who is now on beta blockers for long term Covid. As would folks like my Dad who the vaccine and first booster didn't work on due to his suppressed immune system from receiving my kidney.

Careful with extreme endurance exercise, it can be immuno suppressive [0]

I would advise a balance between weightlifting, moderate cardio, lots of sunlight exposure for Vitamin D and testosterone support, and a balanced diet.

And yes there are instances of young, non co-morbid people dying from covid. Statistically, not that many, so I'm not worried about it.

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3475230/

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

#89
post #21

When people first talked about it, I was hearing scientists saying that both other viruses and vaccines often change periods, and thus it wasn’t surprising/alarming

Since the intent of the vaccination is to trigger an immune response very similar to the virus I think we should assume that all side effects the virus can cause could also be seen in vaccine trials. The only symptom that I have yet to hear from the vaccination is loss of smell/taste.

> Since the intent of the vaccination is to trigger an immune response very similar to the virus I think we should assume that all side effects the virus can cause could also be seen in vaccine trials.

If you define “side effects the virus can cause” (a term that usually is meaningless, “side effects” are unintended effects of a therapy, and thus deoebd on both the therapy and what it is intentionally used for) to mean “effects associated with the immune response to the virus” this is true by definition, but if you mean “symptoms of infection” it seems improbable.

> The only symptom that I have yet to hear from the vaccination is loss of smell/taste.

A lot of what you hear is reports of events after vaccination that have very little effective filtering for whether they are caused by the vaccination or some other cause (including COVID infection.)

Re: Trends in menstrual bleeding changes after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My under 40 triathlete friend with no comorbidities who wound up in the ICU for a month and needed two surgeries to drain his lungs would beg to differ. Or my buddy down the block under 40 with no cormorbities who is now on beta blockers for long term Covid. As would folks like my Dad who the vaccine and first booster didn't work on due to his suppressed immune system from receiving my kidney.

Lance Armstrong had advanced testicular cancer while competing and placing 6th in the Olympics in 1996. Comorbidities are tricky - and triathletes are a weird body type to build and maintain.

Yes extreme endurance can be immuno suppressive.
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