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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

> Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF?

I log into Chrome with my Gmail account and my browsing history+passwords are carried across all the devices I use in a typical week, Windows, Mac, iPhone. This is huge, as I rely on history a lot.

My last 3 jobs also had Google-based accounts, which means I'm able to maintain two browser contexts where I don't dirty up my personal history with boring work stuff.

I assume Firefox probably offers account syncing, but there's no reason to switch at this point. They lost me more than a decade ago, I loved Chrome's out-of-the-box interface. It made Firefox seem ancient and cluttered with all the unnecessary buttons, and massive borders and tabs consuming precious screen space.

edit: And I'm now reading that Firefox supports multiple browser contexts but requires some effort. No thanks.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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TST is literally the killer feature for FF. It's actually the only reason I went to FF, it was getting out of hand to have all my tabs across the top, and it makes little sense with modern screens being so wide that giving up a little horizontal space to get legible titles is absolutely worth it. Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard…

Edge has vertical tabs but no grouping by parent tab.

Edge does have grouping (might be behind edge://flags)

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

I use FF, but I have at times had to switch to Chrome for extended periods of time when performance of FF was bad after a particular release - maybe about 9-10 years ago? I think a lot of people experienced the same thing at the time, moved off and never moved back.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Huh, you’re the first person I’ve encountered liking that behaviour. Since Firefox switched to MRU Ctrl+Tab by default, every Firefox user I know (whether a long-time user, one migrating from another browser, or someone for whom it is their first browser by virtue of their youth, and I have at least one in each category) has successfully found and toggled that option. I must admit, however, that I do have Tab Flip fo…

Huh, this is the first time I heard that FF supports MRU, and it's amazing (well except that it's only current window, see below)! I don't know why it was turned off by default. MRU should always be the default, this is also what IDE's do, and alt+tab does with main windows. What is even the point of ctrl+tab cycling to next tab? You got to press it dozens of times to go back to the original tab... Why would anyone u…

alt+tab is a very different operation.

ctrl+tab cycling to the next tab is essential for many ways of surfing the web.

For instance, research a topic and tap up many tabs. Now go through them one by one. And in the process of doing so you might want to tab up even more.

At this point cycling to the next tab becomes a way to navigate the history, but where you have the context of each step preserved. MRU in this context is a nightmare.

MRU for tabs doesn't make any sense to me, that purpose is served by switching to another window instead (which is, and should be, MRU).

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I've switched from Firefox to Safari for most of my browsing, and Chrome for anything that needs devtools. Why? Battery. Efficiency. On the new M1 Macbooks I can run Safari and be unplugged all day long. The increased power consumption and battery drain is noticeable when using FF and I can't make it all the way through the day. As far as extensions go, I have 1Blocker and it works well, it does block YouTube ads. Th…

I tried safari, but the lack of extensions is a major turn off. How do you browse the web without uBlock Origin or “I don’t care about cookies”?

An ad blocker is still a must have, and there are several available.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Probably the 4% of people still using Firefox, highly represented here on HN. Still doesn't change my assessment it's not worth it. Edit: especially since according to experience, when Firefox doesn't work for users, they just switch to another browser.

If it doesn't work in Firefox then I don't go to that site anymore. There's probably 2 other people in the world like me. Maybe 3.

The thing is, as a solo developer, you just have to be ruthless with cost/benefit. Either I give the same experience to maybe 2% of the users, or an overall improvement to 98%. Is it ideal? No. But a lot of things are about tradeoffs and deciding where you spend your resources.

Ok, people here don't like it. They can make their own tradeoffs. But in my opinion my choice is not that crazy.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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post #342
post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

> Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I log into Chrome with my Gmail account and my browsing history+passwords are carried across all the devices I use in a typical week, Windows, Mac, iPhone. This is huge, as I rely on history a lot. My last 3 jobs also had Google-based accounts, which means I'm able to maintain two browser contexts where I don't dirty up my personal history w…

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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

DevTools I think... although FF's are solid, Chrome's are just that much better.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

I'm a longtime Mozilla contributor, so I’m probably biased toward Firefox, but there are still a few Chrome features that I wish Firefox had, like: - Easier to create and use multiple profiles (somewhat mitigated by Mozilla's multi-container add-on) - Google Translate integration

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