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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by koonsolo »

hansel_der wrote: post #271
koonsolo wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, it seems with the latest update of firefox, some textures are not rendered properly. All works fine in the other browsers. Before that, some other update gave issues with some certificate. Looking at all the issues this browser causes, and the very low usage, I'm not spending time tracking down what is going wrong. Safari on iOS is such another problem child, but used high enough to justify the time to invest…

>Looking at all the issues this browser causes, and the very low usage, I'm not spending time tracking down what is going wrong. been hearing this for about a decade now...

Firefox usage in 2012: 24%. Now: 7.8% on desktop, almost non-existent on mobile, which brings it to a total of about 4%.

Your point of "been hearing this" is what?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by chakkepolja »

dmytrish wrote: post #46
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

I prefer Chrome's tab groups over TST, its simpler and needs less organizing IMO. But needs some more keyboard shortcuts.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by koonsolo »

crtasm wrote: post #301
koonsolo wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, stating facts gets you downvoted. Nice one! Here are the facts: - multiple game devs have issues with Firefox - Firefox doesn't support File System Access API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System... , other browsers do. - Usage of Firefox is very low Live with reality people.

> If you look at the usage numbers, it just makes no sense to support this browser anymore. It seems the reality is that people disagree with your opinion.

Probably the 4% of people still using Firefox, highly represented here on HN.

Still doesn't change my assessment it's not worth it.

Edit: especially since according to experience, when Firefox doesn't work for users, they just switch to another browser.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by chakkepolja »

baal80spam wrote: post #77
flerchin wrote: post #16

Firefox on Android with ublock origin is a _must_. Otherwise the mobile web is nigh unusable.

I use Brave - it has builtin ad/scriptblocker.

Brave feels much more cluttered and heavier.

Secondly, enabling JS on per site basis is easier on FF Android with UBO. Speeds up browsing a lot.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Aardwolf »

chrismorgan wrote: post #14
doliveira wrote: post #2

Firefox is worth it if only for the Ctrl-Tab going in recently used order. I hate using Chrome and needing to use the mouse to actually find a tab

Huh, you’re the first person I’ve encountered liking that behaviour. Since Firefox switched to MRU Ctrl+Tab by default, every Firefox user I know (whether a long-time user, one migrating from another browser, or someone for whom it is their first browser by virtue of their youth, and I have at least one in each category) has successfully found and toggled that option. I must admit, however, that I do have Tab Flip fo…

Huh, this is the first time I heard that FF supports MRU, and it's amazing (well except that it's only current window, see below)! I don't know why it was turned off by default.

MRU should always be the default, this is also what IDE's do, and alt+tab does with main windows.

What is even the point of ctrl+tab cycling to next tab? You got to press it dozens of times to go back to the original tab... Why would anyone use that? You can use ctrl+pgdn and pgup to go to next/previous which is more sensible for this.

So disappointingly, now I turned this feature on in FF, and I'm disappointed to see that it only cycles through most recent tab of current window. I wish it would go through any window. I have always dozens of windows with dozens of tabs each, and I find myself sometimes just opening the same URL again due to not bothering trying to find back a tab I was in just a few minutes ago due to not having a ctrl+tab that goes to most recent tab in any window.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by mishafb »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #320
zahma wrote: post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

There are a couple of features in Chrome that I use every day for web dev. 1) when the console is open, you can right-click on the reload page button and choose hard reload. 2) when inspecting CSS properties, you can change many of them by dragging them with the mouse left and right. That makes positioning elements so much easier than guessing and adjusting a dozen times.

1. You mean ctrl-shift-r?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by louhike »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #320
zahma wrote: post #291

Is there really a killer feature of Chrome that justifies its use over FF? I've been using Firefox and have never been disappointed with it. I always just assumed that if you wanted privacy, it's better to use Firefox over Chrome, Safari, or Brave.

There are a couple of features in Chrome that I use every day for web dev. 1) when the console is open, you can right-click on the reload page button and choose hard reload. 2) when inspecting CSS properties, you can change many of them by dragging them with the mouse left and right. That makes positioning elements so much easier than guessing and adjusting a dozen times.

You can drag CSS properties in Firefox too.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by aftergibson »

zahllos wrote: post #290
weetniet wrote: post #249

As mentioned by others, the recommended list of extensions in the article is a bit outdated. These days not much more than uBlock Origin is needed for a good configuration, with the addition of maybe CanvasBlocker.

True but I use some other extensions anyway. They are: - Multi Account Containers - does exactly what it says on the tin. I load Google stuff inside a Google container for example, and banking websites all get their own container only used for that purpose. - Auto Cookie Optout, with their config added to uBlock Origin. Basically automatically clicks "essential cookies only" everywhere it can (it helps to allow loadi…

Just a heads up, with umatrix no longer being developed, you can actually enable the same functionality in unlock origin.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by rascul »

koonsolo wrote: post #272
the_gipsy wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The low usage is a fair point, but "all the issues this browser causes" simply isn't true. You would say the same about chrome if you developed for Firefox first.

Having updates breaking stuff is still a different beast.

Was that back when Mozilla removed the WoSign and StartCom for doing shady stuff?

https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/10/24/distrusting-new...

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by zamadatix »

pessimizer wrote: post #305
zamadatix wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a heads up though as suggested by the name "ManualAppUpdateOnly" doesn't just disable the notification it completely disables the entire auto-update system. Not only will you not get notifications about updates you will not get updates at all until you remember to check the about dialog or manually download them. This is intended for environments that have managed packages where the browser doesn't need to update…

> Not only will you not get notifications about updates you will not get updates at all until you remember to check the about dialog or manually download them. What if you feel like you can handle this not particularly difficult problem?

Then activate the setting and enjoy. If what you actually want is silent manual updates not just for the update notifications to go away then it's the perfect option for you.
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