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I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I started using Firefox ages ago because of firebug. I’ve been using it as my primary browser ever since. I’ve never had an issue with it (other than the occasional web site that is designed to only work with Chrome). Maybe I don’t know what I’m missing since I haven’t given Chrome a try (other than loading the occasional website that only works on Chrome). Maybe Chrome is better than Firefox, but I don’t have any co…

The big one for me is that Chrome's JavaScript engine is much faster than Mozilla's. I'm not sure why, but it makes a noticible difference. I use this to my advantage by using FF as my daily driver. I believe that if my site is fast on Firefox, then it's damn near fast enough for everyone.

Lots of web devs only testing in chromium browsers, perhaps?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I think most people use an adblocker to avoid seeing ads, not privacy. Most people (myself included) care more about saving time on YouTube videos and making webpages not have pop ups all over the place than privacy.

That's a pretty big assumption. I'd say my motivation is exactly the reverse of that.

> I think most people

> I'd say my motivation

I’d be careful not to generalize your own experience here. Just the fact that we are having this conversation on HN puts us in a bubble that is not representative of “most people”.

My motivation is privacy. The motivation of many people I know is “ads are super annoying”. Privacy awareness is growing, but most people are not as aware as the people on this thread.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are absolutely essential 1. Containers... I use another unverified extension to match urls and automatically assign containers... 2. Ublock origin 3. Tree style tabs 4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request That said, i still end up using chromium for tea…

uBlock Origin does exist on chrome btw https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...

As far as I know Chrome has its own tracking which can't be blocked.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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>Tab groups Please no. I actually switched to Firefox on mobile just because I couldn't get tab groups to stay disabled in Chrome.

What do you dislike about tab groups? Or is Chrome's implementation on mobile not good? I think the current design is ugly. The way Edge handles them in the vertical tabs sidebar looks a lot better than the way other Chromium derivatives handle them in the tab strip, but still not the best. I like Vivaldi's implementation better, but the UI is relatively laggy. I miss old Opera.

I find them unpredictable. I don't know when something will open in a new group, I don't know how I can move a tab out of/into a group. I find it to be kind of a mess. And of course it was shoved at me without even asking whether I want it.

(Thanks in advance for the solution. I mostly use Firefox anyway)

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

Well, how are you persisting state? How do you quickly go back?

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Every feature removed by Google will have to be maintained by the open source community instead. That's going to be a workload that I'm not sure who is going to pick up. After all Chromium right now is maintained by Google. There's some forks like degoogled chromium but they are mainly focused on removing features, not rebuilding ones that have been deprecated. Brave is an option but I don't really like where they're…

The crypto aspect is opt-in

Only for now, they will bait and switch soon enough. We have seen this happen too many times.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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I used Firefox in the early-mid 00s, switched to Chrome not long after launch, after my colleagues showed me how much slicker is was than a now fairly heavy Firefox (at the time.)

Then evil Google emerges, Chrome got fat, FF trimmed up and went privacy-as-a-default, and I'm back on FF again for the better part of the last decade.

Opera had a look-in around 2008 but it didn't last long, although some of the features were nicely done, it just had a clunky feeling and the rendering was ... Different.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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As mentioned by others, the recommended list of extensions in the article is a bit outdated. These days not much more than uBlock Origin is needed for a good configuration, with the addition of maybe CanvasBlocker.

True but I use some other extensions anyway. They are:

- Multi Account Containers - does exactly what it says on the tin. I load Google stuff inside a Google container for example, and banking websites all get their own container only used for that purpose.

- Auto Cookie Optout, with their config added to uBlock Origin. Basically automatically clicks "essential cookies only" everywhere it can (it helps to allow loading of these sites automatically in uBlock and uMatrix, otherwise it can't). Possibly not an issue if you're outside the EU, though.

- uMatrix so I have some level of control over what loads when I want it.

- ClearURLs - takes out tracking and unnecessary URL parameters. uMatrix tends to block and warn if you do click one and you can find the dest_url without parameters on its warning page, where ClearURLs fails.

- Decentraleyes - injects resources instead of loading them from CDNs. Quite mixed results with this but it is still on the list for the moment.

- Sideberry, basically another tree style tabs.

Nice testing sites for these extensions are basically any newspaper website or shopping website, which are all thoroughly infested with trackers and such.

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