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Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

#81

So many are trashing the live action that I'd like to offer my opinion. I enjoyed it for what it was, a reimagining. Vicious' actor was terrible but he picked up towards the end. John Cho did a good nod to Spike, Mustafa Shakir killed it as Jet, and Daniella Pineda was decent as Faye. What absolutely caught my attention was the production quality of the sets though out the show. Each shot felt heavily inspired by the…

I enjoyed it very much. I feel that people create high expectations just to be ensure they’ll be disappointed. A scene for scene live reenactment would’ve been boring. Just like that Halo show. You can switch things up a bit and do great.

I don’t think we watched the same Halo show.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

#82

So many are trashing the live action that I'd like to offer my opinion. I enjoyed it for what it was, a reimagining. Vicious' actor was terrible but he picked up towards the end. John Cho did a good nod to Spike, Mustafa Shakir killed it as Jet, and Daniella Pineda was decent as Faye. What absolutely caught my attention was the production quality of the sets though out the show. Each shot felt heavily inspired by the…

I enjoyed it very much. I feel that people create high expectations just to be ensure they’ll be disappointed. A scene for scene live reenactment would’ve been boring. Just like that Halo show. You can switch things up a bit and do great.

Everyone who really likes Halo hated the show.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

#83

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I enjoyed it very much. I feel that people create high expectations just to be ensure they’ll be disappointed. A scene for scene live reenactment would’ve been boring. Just like that Halo show. You can switch things up a bit and do great.

> I feel that people create high expectations just to be ensure they’ll be disappointed. I might just have low standards, but I never really feel as disappointed as a lot of the community seems to be whenever there's a live action adaptation - be it of Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop or something else. It's sometimes interesting to see how certain aspects of the original are carried over or changed in the live actio…

Ghost in the Shell would have been perfectly fine if they hadn't mixed two completely unrelated stories from the anime, which involved merging a human main character with an AI main character with completely different goals and background. The result was just as confusing as you'd expect from Ghost in the Shell but without any of the interesting parts.

Though I'm not sure why so many people complained about the cast back then. The actors were great and fit their roles reasonably well aside.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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To anyone who watched the disaster that was the netflix live adaptation and was put off - please try the original anime. It's a masterpiece. Animation, characters, storytelling, soundtrack - it's all top shelf. The original intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4 The English dub is better than most, and if you really can't deal with subtitles, go for it - but the original voice actors were some of the best…

This is a very rare example of an anime where I prefer the dub to the original audio. Not only was the casting and acting excellent, but they even went the extra mile in the mixing and environmental audio, which was fine in the original but even improved in the dub.

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Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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post #16

To anyone who watched the disaster that was the netflix live adaptation and was put off - please try the original anime. It's a masterpiece. Animation, characters, storytelling, soundtrack - it's all top shelf. The original intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4 The English dub is better than most, and if you really can't deal with subtitles, go for it - but the original voice actors were some of the best…

This is a very rare example of an anime where I prefer the dub to the original audio. Not only was the casting and acting excellent, but they even went the extra mile in the mixing and environmental audio, which was fine in the original but even improved in the dub.

One of the extreme few series that does it at all with a dub, yeah. It helps so much, and it's so trivial to achieve nowadays, I really don't understand why dubs are overwhelmingly so flat. It's awful.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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> When its live-action reboot failed last year Did it fail? I enjoyed it! I don’t stay up to date with the critics though. Hope this doesn't mean the second season won’t get made.

It failed and got canceled by Netflix. Now, I know getting canceled by Netflix means little. I gave this show a chance, after being impressed with the intro sequence remake, but found it to be soulless. Maybe Cowboy Bebop just doesn't translate to live action; what seemed charming in the original was played for kitsch in the remake. I couldn't even make it to the last episodes.

They basically needed a reincarnation of Bruce Lee to play Spike.

They didn't find that person in casting.

Series failure inevitable.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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post #48
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> When its live-action reboot failed last year Did it fail? I enjoyed it! I don’t stay up to date with the critics though. Hope this doesn't mean the second season won’t get made.

Netflix has a pattern. They have stats from a lot of multi-season shows and know that there's a sharp drop off in viewers the more seasons a show runs for, even if they're all excellent. This makes the first season a great investment, but remaining seasons are subject to rapidly diminishing returns. So, their solution is to put a lot of effort into season 1 and, if it does really well, put vastly diminished resources…

Marco Polo did get a second season, and it was also pretty good from what I remember - almost entirely because Benedict Wong is so good as Kublai Khan.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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Yoko Kanno is an amazing person. I'm blown away by her creative works. But personally, I found Ed (in the anime) to be super annoying. I wish her character was written differently.

Quite a lot of plagiarism though? https://yokokanno-ojaru-jp.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x...

I've also seen this mentioned on Reddit and unfortunately it seems to be accurate (the site you link to looks a bit sketchy though).

The music of hers that I like is great music and if she was influenced by other songs then that's mostly alright I think.

The couple of songs that are more copies/ripoffs than just "influenced by" do irk me, but from what I saw last time I looked into this none of my favourites were straight ripoffs.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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I think it should be comical, because that makes it more entertaining. The sub is more boring because it's more serious sounding. I also don't see why it needs to be like how normal people talk, because it's literally a cartoon. Generally I far prefer the English dub style to the stern and serious Japanese sub style

> it's literally a cartoon First, it's an anime, not a cartoon. They are different things with a different history. Second, cartoon or not that does not justify silly voices and poor acting. Just because something is not live action or CGI it does not mean it should be dubbed like the Smurfs. Additionally, the original author decided the style of the voicing. Dubbing for other languages should respect the author inte…

Do you know what western cartoons are called in Japan? Anime.

Re: Designing the Characters of 'Cowboy Bebop'

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> it's literally a cartoon First, it's an anime, not a cartoon. They are different things with a different history. Second, cartoon or not that does not justify silly voices and poor acting. Just because something is not live action or CGI it does not mean it should be dubbed like the Smurfs. Additionally, the original author decided the style of the voicing. Dubbing for other languages should respect the author inte…

Do you know what western cartoons are called in Japan? Anime.

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