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Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #88
dreamcompiler wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My SO who lived for a time in the UK refuses to eat lamb in the US because "it's terrible." Apparently lamb in the UK is the gold standard for quality.

To go with your SO, meat is generally of a higher quality in Europe than the US due to the far more stringent regulations regarding production. It's also why Europeans tend to be far more relaxed than Americans regarding how meat is cooked.

Do you mean the thing about meat thermometers and making sure that meat is cooked right throught at the right temperature, always? Is that a US thing?

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Post by Avlin67 »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #139
bombcar wrote: post #118

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Rabbits fed the same kind of market that chickens do, but chickens have been engineered to produce absolutely massive amounts of meat for cheap, and rabbits haven't kept up.

Probably a good reason to eat rabbit rather than chicken...

we have lot of kebabs and « chicken whatever » fats foods in france because of utterly cheap so called meat comming from egg industry (usually poland or germany)I had to learn my wife what proper meet is about and get a discussion with the butcher. Now she gets high quality at cheap price…

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Post by t-3 »

sph wrote: post #20

We eat horsemeat in Italy as well, though not very commonly. I did a few times, eh, nothing to write home about. Also donkey meat ragu once, that was pretty good. AFAIK rabbit meat is not viewed very well across the pond either, like in the US. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Rabbit isn't tabboo like horse or dog, but it's not common due to fear of disease from eating out of season (there is a myth that eating rabbit in certain seasons is dangerous).

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Post by jameshart »

nkozyra wrote: post #24
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #15

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> the reaction you get is typically "Eeehwww! i understand when people react that way to eating dog or smth, but horses and cows are same family of animald

> but horses and cows are same family of animal How do you mean? They're not, taxonomically.

‘Family’ doesn’t really have a defined meaning in modern taxonomy. Horses and cows are part of the same clade, ‘ungulata’ - hooved mammals. It’s not a Linnaean taxonomic ally ‘ranked’ clade though, like an ‘order’ or a ‘genus’ - but those terms aren’t really that formally valid, so using ‘family’ informally to mean ‘clade with some reasonable level of shared characteristics’ seems fair.

But to also be fair, if you want to classify horses and cows as edible based on their shared common ancestry, you’re also arguing for eating giraffes, tapirs, rhinos, hippos, whales and dolphins.

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Post by Glawen »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #86
Glawen wrote: post #22

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Depends on the region. You can buy here in every shop rosbif Alsacien which is horse meat.

Yes, this is very true - that's why I mentioned my region expecting that lov=cal traditions may be diverse. Out of curiosity - is rosbif Alsacien something that you would usually buy?(putting aside the price - I am just looking for statistical preferences in taste and provenance)

From time to time, like once or twice a year. It is sold already made. But I'm not a big meat eater, I rarely buy a piece of meat to fry.

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

doctor_eval wrote: post #65
aspyct wrote: post #42

It's the first time I see a picture of edible meat and feel repulsed by it. Interesting. Bit of background about me: I really like horses. They're friends to me. I see why people eat them, but that just sounds wrong, just writing it. I... I guess I understand why vegetarians don't like meat, now.

I’m not here to judge anyone for eating meat, despite being vegetarian, but I agree with the other comments here, if you eat cows or pigs or sheep or chickens then why not cockatoos or horses or dogs (or feral cats, which are consumed in some parts of Australia)? I don’t eat any of these creatures, but nevertheless, I just don’t get why certain animals seem to be culturally off limits for those who do eat meat. Is it…

I think it's because some animals are raised for their meat, and some not, and they're different animals in different parts of the world. Similarly, some animals are hunted or foraged for food and others aren't.

I think that kind of ...crystallises? into eating taboos. So for example, where I'm from, in Greece, it's traditional (particularly in the islands of Crete and Corfu) for people to go out and gather snails after the rain to cook them and eat them. Famously, the French also eat snails. But offer snails to an Englishman? Yeeeew! Snails!

And let's not forget that entire millions of people don't eat specific kinds of meat because it's forbidden by their religions: faithful jewish and muslim folks don't eat pig meat, Hindus don't eat cow meat (unless the cow must be put down because it broke a leg, if I understand correctly) and so on.

And then there's matters of personal preference. In Greece, organ meats are considered a delicacy, but I have at least two friends who will not touch them and will probably puke if they smell them cooking.

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Post by MayeulC »

pigtailgirl wrote: post #123
MrDresden wrote: post #60

Icelander here. Horse foal meat is some of the more expensive meat you can have at the finer restaurants in the country. At every butcher shops you can find foal meat, and most if not all supermarkets carry horse meat in some way (frozen, salted, smoked or as a sausage etc). The finer foal cuts are really some of the best meat I have ever tasted. Highly recommend.

-- most intense lamb I've ever tried was in Iceland - had lamb many many times in Scotland and it was gamey - but the lamb in Iceland was next level - in fact it was so intense that I tried it at another restaurant the next day just to see if it was the place I'd eaten - nope - just as strong - I wondered why - if you happened to know --

Male mutton tends to have a stronger taste, especially when older, where it can get too strong. It might depend on the age at which the lamb was slaughtered, as there is more meat as they grow older. (My parents raise a few sheep).

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Post by abawany »

DonaldFisk wrote: post #55
moron4hire wrote: post #30

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Rabbit is eaten in the states, but it's kind of like venison: it's just not something you'll usually find in any store or restaurant, unless those places are specifically going out of their way to cater to either hunters or an "old world European" aesthetic. I can regularly get rabbit at either cheap redneck holes in the sticks or expensive German restaurants in the city. People outside of the cities, and ethnic encl…

> Sections of beef brain (excellent battered and deep fried). I'll take your word for it but I'm not tempted. After BSE and the outbreak of variant CJD which resulted, I wouldn't consider it worth the risk. I've wondered what brain tastes like, though. It's used in a few of Apicius's recipes. I substituted corned beef from BSE free Argentina when I cooked those.

I was forced to try it a few times as a kid and I can assure you it was disgusting, with a soft spongy texture and an unnatural taste that no amount of spices could hide.

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Post by sbf501 »

doctor_eval wrote: post #65
aspyct wrote: post #42

It's the first time I see a picture of edible meat and feel repulsed by it. Interesting. Bit of background about me: I really like horses. They're friends to me. I see why people eat them, but that just sounds wrong, just writing it. I... I guess I understand why vegetarians don't like meat, now.

I’m not here to judge anyone for eating meat, despite being vegetarian, but I agree with the other comments here, if you eat cows or pigs or sheep or chickens then why not cockatoos or horses or dogs (or feral cats, which are consumed in some parts of Australia)? I don’t eat any of these creatures, but nevertheless, I just don’t get why certain animals seem to be culturally off limits for those who do eat meat. Is it…

We only eat the ugly animals. Obligatory Denis LEary:

"And what are you? ... I'm an otter ... And what do you do? ... I swim around and do cute little human things with my hands. ... You're free to go. And what are you? ... I'm a cow. ... No you're not! You're a baseball mitt! Get in the back of the truck!!!"

Re: Eating horsemeat in France

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Post by sbf501 »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #146
doctor_eval wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not here to judge anyone for eating meat, despite being vegetarian, but I agree with the other comments here, if you eat cows or pigs or sheep or chickens then why not cockatoos or horses or dogs (or feral cats, which are consumed in some parts of Australia)? I don’t eat any of these creatures, but nevertheless, I just don’t get why certain animals seem to be culturally off limits for those who do eat meat. Is it…

I think it's because some animals are raised for their meat, and some not, and they're different animals in different parts of the world. Similarly, some animals are hunted or foraged for food and others aren't. I think that kind of ...crystallises? into eating taboos. So for example, where I'm from, in Greece, it's traditional (particularly in the islands of Crete and Corfu) for people to go out and gather snails af…

When I was a kid we'd walk down to the shore during low tide and throw big rocks on the beach below the tide line. When water squirted up out of the sand, we'd dig there to find a type of small clam that sprays water. Then we'd literally steam and eat them. You are supposed to soak them in water to let them filter out the sand for a day, but generally we just dealt with a little grit for the immediate satisfaction.
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