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Stripe cuts internal valuation by 28%

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Re: Stripe cuts internal valuation by 28%

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Which measure are you using?

Two consecutive quarters of negative growth plus...well the S&P is down nearly 25% over the last six months. If this isn't a recession I don't know what is.

We haven't reported 2 consecutive qtrs of negative growth.

Re: Stripe cuts internal valuation by 28%

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Remember that Stripe changed its RSU grant structure a year or so ago, so this won’t negatively affect newer employees. Stripe gives out a fixed amount of $$ value of stock each year now. The typical recent senior hire will get around $200k a year in stock. Now that the valuation is lower, they’ll be granted more stock units than before, which is good. Getting granted fewer stock units at a ‘fake’ higher valuation wo…

Personally, I don't see what the hubbub is about. A 409a is a standard instrument used to price options, a standard approach to a 409A valuation is the base the value of a company on its comparables, including public comparables. If I were conducting this valuation, I haven't done this myself, but I most definitely read our 409A valuations closely. I'd imagine that the outside firm hired to conduct the analysis on Fi…

There was a big shift over the last decade towards late stage startups and public companies issuing RSUs instead of options. Blonk stopped issuing options in like 2014. Coinbase is all RSU. Shopify is all RSU. The others I don't have personal knowledge of. It's possible someone is still vesting options from years ago but if so they're most certainly not underwater.

Re: Stripe cuts internal valuation by 28%

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Shouldn't going public on an unrealistic market cap would cause more issues than benefits? Sure, a healthy exit is ok but later pressure to recover the market cap in the short term can cause heavy structural damages inside any org.

I'd rather have cash in my bank account and work for a company that will suffer structural damage than see my hypothetical net worth go down 60%.

You're gonna love a job at Netflix :)

Re: Stripe cuts internal valuation by 28%

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post #54

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Not exactly, but has huge valuation risk and is likely to end up being $50k all said and done. The trouble with equity is that it can fluctuate wildly in value and you only have yourself to blame (because the decision to sell is ultimately yours, and there can be a lot of anxiety and regret attached to it).

most of the startups that offered me stock options had completely exaggerated valuations, so... my heart goes to engineers, who joined a startup on bold promises to make it, but never got to IPO, M&A or even worse - were forced to execute options to later sell them at loss

This happened to me as well. Ridiculous billions+ valuations for companies that have not much of a moat and questionable market sizes, plus competition. Consequently the stock grants were for laughably thin slices of the company for massively inflated "Fair" Market Values per share, not to mention below-average salary offers. Basically, many startups think employees are only too willing to assume inordinate amounts of risk to make founders and their cronies rich while putting their futures on the line, and expect employees to be grateful they are given such opportunities. F that.

Re: Stripe cuts internal valuation by 28%

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Sure did grab my eyeball, down round for a company that effectively was invincible--and I met the guy, I met pc (his username here)--but full on unblemished trajectory, totally monotonic. Never heard one bad thing about him, except in my inner monologue like biting the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, which I do for everyone, and just barely bad, not morally bad, just unfavorable for me in particu…

Maybe caught your eyeball but not your brain. Your word soup doesn't hide your inability to form coherent thoughts, in fact it highlights it.

Fair.
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