Take Jobs, Wozniak or Markula out of the picture and Apple fails. You needed a hustler/product guy, a brilliant engineer and a great business mind for success. Jobs legend was created because he built upon his skills. He enhanced his ability to spot and aquire great talent and learned (the hard way) how to become a great businessman.
Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
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Re: Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
#32The company would not be what it is today if either of them had went solo, FACT.
These constant articles/opinions etc regarding Jobs are now getting pretty tiresome. Love him or hate him, he was amazing at what HE done.
Whatever happened to letting someone Rest In Peace
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#33I cannot understand how you could read this biography and arrive at the conclusion that any one person should be "emulated". What I took away was that all components of Apple's success were mutually inclusive. It's unlikely that it could have happened any other way. You can pick a thousand points along the line wherein the events might have not come together as they did, and you do not end up with the Apple that exis…
Article is just trying to expel the misconceptions around Jobs and say that brilliant engineering is more important than design & reality distortion field in a startup.
Re: Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
#34According to Steve, you shouldn't be emulating anyone - be yourself. You'll never be a better Steve Jobs than Steve was - or a better Woz than Woz was. The key thing I got out of the article is how important your co-founder is - one thing Steve seems to have is that he recognized talent very quickly (Woz, Ive at the age of 29) and developed them.
Come again? Steve developed Woz?
Although Steve had ulterior motives, this doesn't seem too different than what we would say now of managers who were good at developing their employees.
Re: Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
#35Take Jobs, Wozniak or Markula out of the picture and Apple fails. You needed a hustler/product guy, a brilliant engineer and a great business mind for success. Jobs legend was created because he built upon his skills. He enhanced his ability to spot and aquire great talent and learned (the hard way) how to become a great businessman.
True, but the least important in the mix was Jobs.
All were equally important in starting the company.....
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope. But I've certainly failed a bunch of times. And now I'm going for the brass ring again. Work within your means, but reach for things that are out of your means.
I agree failure is important. It's easy to start with a large fortune and end with a smaller one though.
In the end it comes down to having the vision and taking the risk. And one of his risks finally paid off. That is the essence of entrepreneurship, and something to emulate.
Re: Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
#37How can anybody write an article with a straight face suggesting that you should emulate any of these people who were notable chiefly because they emulated no one?
Can we get special flagging functionality to deal with this personality cult bullshit?
Re: Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
#38Jobs without Woz would have found another company to run and another great idea to build. Woz without Jobs would just be some really good engineer inside some gigantic company no one has ever heard of. He even is quoted in the book as having aspired to that.
First statement is completely up for debate. Jobs did continue without Wozniak and he failed every product in the next 18 years and spent millions of dollars. Not something founders here can emulate.
Re: Why Founders Should Emulate Wozniak, Not Jobs
#39This shit is beyond absurd. How can anybody write an article with a straight face suggesting that you should emulate any of these people who were notable chiefly because they emulated no one? Can we get special flagging functionality to deal with this personality cult bullshit?
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're right it did take a lot of convincing and hustling. It didn't take product vision from Jobs to make the Apple II a success however. Look at all the products Jobs tried to produce through his "vision," they all failed until the iPod.
What about iMac?