Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her consent

Post by zelos » Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 3:50 PM UTC

guerrilla wrote: post #222

nonrandomstring wrote: post #40

The reason this act breaks a moral boundary is that it subverts a principle of "ends" [1]. A genuine random act of kindness cannot occur if it's being filmed. Filming the act turns it into a virtue display. It also turns the subject into an object of utility, a means and not and end in themself. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ends

I'm not religious but it reminds me of Matthew 6:5-6 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward. But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."…

Post by nonrandomstring » Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

golemotron wrote: post #312

nonrandomstring wrote: post #40

The reason this act breaks a moral boundary is that it subverts a principle of "ends" [1]. A genuine random act of kindness cannot occur if it's being filmed. Filming the act turns it into a virtue display. It also turns the subject into an object of utility, a means and not and end in themself. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ends

> It also turns the subject into an object of utility, a means and not and end in themself. False dichotomy. It can be both.

Post by throwaway0a5e » Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 3:58 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #329

phpisthebest wrote: post #93

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I am not aware of a context where virtue signaling would be a good practice or behavior.

Virtue signaling has similar effect as vice signaling: it signals to others what you think is good thing to do. It is statement toward rest of word.

Post by curryberto » Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 4:00 PM UTC

vel0city wrote: post #318

swat535 wrote: post #264

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Everything in the Bible, including what Christians are supposed to be like, should be viewed through the lens of Jesus on the cross. The idea is that you are supposed to imitate Christ in your life for salvation which is reaching Heaven i.e glorifying God, the Father forever via achieving the Beatific vision. So the "reward" in this case is you becoming one with Christ and thus closer to God. It's not a "currency" to…

Is that last part really a Christian (in a wide sense) thing or just a Catholic thing? I definitely hear it at Catholic Mass but I have not experienced it at most protestant Eucharist ceremonies.

Post by Hammershaft » Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 4:01 PM UTC

gonzo41 wrote: post #300

TrueGeek wrote: post #288

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Even The Guardian couldn't help but link to the TikTok channel, point out when it was posted so you could find it easier, and post a screenshot of the video with the woman in it even though it's an article all about how she didn't want to be on camera. They're going to get tons of views!

'Journalists' dont' give a shit about anyone. Her concerns are mute, now they guardian gets to talk about the meta issue. The tiktok was exploitative, the guardian article was likewise exploitative. They could have not linked to the channel and also just written a description of the tiktok. Choices were may, all of them to exploit that women directly or indirectly by piling onto the hype.